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You paid in, you have a claim to receive benefits. No more; no less. All your other hand waving is superfluous. I’m not saying it’s fair; just; a good idea; or anything else. But it’s the very definition of an entitlement. That you wish to use alternate definitions LOL. Sounds so familiar…….. Kenneth wasn’t wrong yesterday, but today you go! What are you mumbling about in the third person?
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You paid in, you have a claim to receive benefits. No more; no less. All your other hand waving is superfluous. I’m not saying it’s fair; just; a good idea; or anything else. But it’s the very definition of an entitlement. That you wish to use alternate definitions LOL. Sounds so familiar…….. Kenneth wasn’t wrong yesterday, but today you go! What are you mumbling about in the third person? You know very well what I’m talking about, Today your saying what I was saying yesterday, FFS sound familiar? It’s just funny how one day makes a difference in how you think or comment.
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Look jackass I was forced to pay in. I am still paying in. it is a pay to play Ponsi scheme that hasn't toppled just yet. It is only an entitlement if I had a choice in making the payments. In fact one could call SS an extortion racket with a small payout. Words have meanings; and very specific ones. That you were “forced” to pay in has fúckall to do with it. You paid in, you have a claim to receive benefits. No more; no less. All your other hand waving is superfluous. I’m not saying it’s fair; just; a good idea; or anything else. But it’s the very definition of an entitlement. That you wish to use alternate definitions or connotations of the word is on you and your willful obstinance. So akwolverine with your definition of entitlement whic is and i quote you” A legal right or just claim to do, receive, or possess something. Also as mass noun. Frequently with to. That means your pickup truck or your house qualifies as entitlement because you claim it is yours right?
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First SSC check arrived in February. Fishing trip in Alaska booked for this summer and a brown bear hunt a bit later. Panama fishing and Nanimbia next year. A new $30K a year buys some fun. I'm drawing mine next year at 65 for the same reasons, latest estimate puts it at $34K. Guys should google Social Security breakeven point, and do a realistic assessment of your longevity. Bottom line is there's no real one size fits all for when to draw. There's a benefit to drawing earlier while you still have the physical capabilities to enjoy it.. (route I'm taking). Especially if your retirement savings, pensions etc. are covering all the basics. IAW my latest, I paid in $155K and my employers paid in $159K since "74" when I started working in HS. My breakeven pt is 79 for the delta between collecting at 65 and 67. Yeah I just started a couple of months before I turn 65. I have to live past 82 for that to be a bad deal but based on my health and family history I'll be done before that. Doing SS and Medicare online was a breeze.
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Food stamps are in the farm bills that the crooks (who don't pay social security taxes yet have a really cushy retirement plan) make a big deal about every five years. Shows the hoi polloi that they can work together for the good of the country. Gets two voting blocks secured for incumbents. The"poor" on welfare and the agriculture producers.
And for you young intellectuals, the USSR was always announcing five and seven year plans so the workers in the workers paradise that is communism would have hope. We on the other hand had a yearly budget, which slowed the globalist agenda somewhat. They had to put their assets in a blind trust to ensure the selfless integrity of public service. It's changed. Bread and circuses for you young folks.
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That would be, “I’ve already got mine “.
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That would be, “I’ve already got mine “. Gheyghost popped ur cherry?
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You heard that from your mom, right?
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Anyone that blames anyone/generation etc for their life is one seriously screwed up individual.
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Can you working slobs decide at which rate to pay into SS?
My folks talk about how there was a range of what they could pay. Min to max.
Is that how it is for you poor 9 to 5 bastards? I can't remember ever having an amount option. I started paying in 1970. Recent research to help memory says it's 6.2 % for the employee, with the employer matching that on behalf of each employee. Just checked, it was 5% withholding in 1978 & 6.2 beginning 1990. 9-5??? ya think workin folks my age were like some movie? This ain't NYC.
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You heard that from your mom, right? No your whore wife lol
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When I was 65, I was planning to wait until at least 67 to collect SS because I didn't feel I needed it. I went to the local SS/Medicare office because I had a question about Medicare. I lucked out by getting a rep close to my age when my number was called. After answering my question about medicare, he asked me if I had filed for Social Security yet. I told him No. With 2 quick math problems on his computer.He showed me why I shouldn't have waited past 62, and showed me how much money I had already left on the table, and how much more I would be leaving on the table if I waitedany longer to file. Needless to.say, I filed right then for Social Security.
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Can you working slobs decide at which rate to pay into SS?
My folks talk about how there was a range of what they could pay. Min to max.
Is that how it is for you poor 9 to 5 bastards? I was just, in the name of one of our esteemed members, a wage slave for most of my years. I let the higher ups in the dept figure that out. I just did my f'n job.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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When I was 65, I was planning to wait until at least 67 to collect SS because I didn't feel I needed it. I went to the local SS/Medicare office because I had a question about Medicare. I lucked out by getting a rep close to my age when my number was called. After answering my question about medicare, he asked me if I had filed for Social Security yet. I told him No. With 2 quick math problems on his computer.He showed me why I shouldn't have waited past 62, and showed me how much money I had already left on the table, and how much more I would be leaving on the table if I waitedany longer to file. Needless to.say, I filed right then for Social Security. Uncle of mine wanted to retire @62 his money grubbin bitch wife made him wait till 67 he lived 2 yrs after that 🤬
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Can you working slobs decide at which rate to pay into SS?
My folks talk about how there was a range of what they could pay. Min to max.
Is that how it is for you poor 9 to 5 bastards? never heard of that. 6.2% of wages/salary, up to a salary of $168,600. above that, they tell me one isn't taxed for SS.
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Can you working slobs decide at which rate to pay into SS?
My folks talk about how there was a range of what they could pay. Min to max.
Is that how it is for you poor 9 to 5 bastards? Back in the day my folks said; you either give it to the government or give it to the machine dealers. They chose machinery.
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6.2% of wages/salary, up to a salary of $168,600. Above that, they tell me one isn't taxed for SS. Yep. If you make up to 168,600 dollars in 2024, you pay social security taxes on 100% of that. But if someone makes 10 million dollars in 2024, they still only pay social security taxes on the first 168,600 dollars. They don’t pay any social security taxes on the rest of the 10 million dollars that they made for the year.
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