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The biggest problem is to reconcile all the nonsence in the bible. There's a clause in there to justify anything in the name of faith.

2 Timothy 1:11-13

11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Maybe the biggest problem for you, but others are not of your ilk. Now, your spelling problem - - - - .

Housewives every where!

😀 It’s kinda funny, but also kinda saddening how unbelievers will attack any thread related to faith or Christianity.😀
I always thought almost all hunters were God fearing folks. It impossible for me to spend day afield in search of game, and not pray and praise God for the blessings of having a gun, a dog, good friends, and the game we’re seeking.
There was a quote on here years ago, that I have stolen for my own.
“Church is where a guy goes on Sunday morning to think about hunting.
Hunting is where a guy goes out in the woods, and thinks about God!”
I have found this to be absolute truth. And I think this explains the closeness we hunters share with our fellow hunters. (Dogs most especially) You spend a few days trampling through the woods or around a mountain with a friend. I guarantee that person becomes more dear to you than a brother or sister.
I know this from experience. This is why I believe that God Himself is a hunter.
I have been fortunate enough to spend many days afield with my Old Man, my brother Dave, Ben, my son, and a man I always remember as “Uncle Bud”. Several others as well! I also know that these days, and these memories, are the greatest worldly possessions I have.
Way more important than any material possession.
You know what im talking about, or maybe you don’t belong here.
Reon

God is omniscient. He knows everything, past, present, and future. He knows exactly where every 400" elk will be at any given time. He knows what other elk are around to blow a stalk and he knows how to approach to avoid them. He knows what will make noise and which way the air currents are going, both now and during a stalk. He knows the range down to a fraction of a millimeter. He knows in advance whether a bird or squirrel will blow his cover.
In other words, he knows everything that the elk will do and whether he will connect. It would take the hunting out of hunting.

About those who hate and refuse to forgive...Forgiveness isn't for the sinner. It's for the believer. When you forgive him, he still owes a debt to the Lord. It's by no means off of his head. Forgiveness is for you, not for them. God will deal with them in his own time and his own way. He wants you to forgive to get it off of YOUR back, not his. You can't be an effective Christian with hate gnawing at you. Forgive those who sin against you and you will be free of it.

Then there's this:
MT 6:14 For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you,
15 but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Do you want to be unforgiven because you're too hardheaded to forgive someone? That's beyond stupid.

Ha! Thousands of denominations of Christians in the world - yeah, they got it ALL figured out - LOL!!! Are you a true Christian? LOL!!!

THIS is a true Christian - one who believes that Jesus is God and that he rose from the dead. All the rest is extra and it's often misunderstood. You can be grossly wrong about much the Bible but if you believe this about Jesus, you're still a Christian.


Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

He gave you some very sound advice. You need to get some help.

9mm, Reon asked politely for members to please respect this thread so could you do that for us, thanks.

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7mm, I didn't read through all the responses, but my answer as best I know how to your original post.

I struggle with the same things as you, but have come to some reconciling and peace I guess you could say as to what the Bible instructs.

We are to pray for the type of people you listed. But unless I missed it, I haven't read where it states how to pray for those people.

I've prayed for Biden many times. But not like some might think that statement means. I will not pray blessings and success on perverse behavior. I do not believe the Bible instructs me anywhere in it, to link hands in agreement with evil. Exactly the opposite from what I read and understand.

Other things involved in the prayers for Biden specifically, but the short version is from early on I prayed that his heart would be turned. But if not, that his sleep would be tormented and his steps confused.

I'm not saying anything with me and my prayers as I'm sure I'm a small number of many praying in such a manner. But I found it interesting that shortly after taking office his first vacation in Feb 2021 to camp David, that the announcement was he was going to his home in Delaware because he wasn't sleeping. Shortly after that in March was the famous 3 trips in a row up the steps of Air Force One.

Take from that what you will. God sometimes has a sense of humor. But if I didn't believe with all my heart that prayer to the God of all creation and the God that saved my soul from a miserable sin filled life had no connection and no meaning, I wouldn't do it. My prayers are not higher than anybody else, but that's the understanding of praying for those type of people that I'm at peace with.

Thank you!

You know many think praying is this big hard thing to do correctly.

Our take on it is that its just a conversation with God.

When I have no clue whats the right thing, I just simply say I think X has a problem or needs help or whatever the case might be, and I'm not sure of the solution, so gonna leave that one up to you, but if you could work on it that would be appreciated.

If you want to ever explain to me why things happen on this earth I"m good with that too. OTOH if I have to wait until it doesn't matter or when you finally tell me, I'm good there too.

I dont' have time to waste wondering why the day long.

Thats about how my conversations kind of go.

You have to find a way to hate the sin but love the sinner. Every sin ever committed was justified somehow in the minds of whoever committed them. Everybody has different experiences that shape their individual justifications. Only God is able to know every reason why someone does what they do, and so God is the only one qualified to judge.

Faced with this situation God simply concluded them all as sinners worthy of destruction and made it possible for all of them to be forgiven by repenting of their sins and trusting in him.

Much of our hate for others comes from thinking of ourselves as better than them. This thinking is a dangerous thing because it lessens our trust in God and strengthens our trust in ourselves. It becomes easy to think of yourself as better than those evil people. You think that surly God will judge you as better than those evil doers and so you become more assured in your own goodness as a qualification for heaven than in the simple mercy of God.

I'm sorry if the truth is upsetting for you.