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Good info/stories. My dad always liked farming and raising cattle. He always made some money. I think good business practices and being frugal with good work ethics are a must to be a farmer. No doubt some real farmers here !
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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
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Good info/stories. My dad always liked farming and raising cattle. He always made some money. I think good business practices and being frugal with good work ethics are a must to be a farmer. No doubt some real farmers here !
Go fugk your arsehole Alan.
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The Biggest Farm I’ve Ever Seen!
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Interesting tidbit: Laura and Grant point out that there are no emissions controls on the diesel engines.


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Great video and content. The high water table is interesting. Where I live at on time they raised watermelons because of the high water table . No more.

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Great video and content. The high water table is interesting. Where I live at on time they raised watermelons because of the high water table . No more.

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Learned a lot. Thanks guys. Tell you this tho - tree farming sucks. Plant and wait 8-12 YEARS for the crop with a lot of the same disease/weather concerns commodity farmers have in between.

During the CRP heyday trees were better.

Put your land in CRP...plant timber....receive money every year for crp contract and then sell timber when contract expires.

We farm Christmas trees. Not me, extended fam for the past 100 years.

We shįt canned our fake tree and have only bought real trees for several years.


Fugg plastic.

I'll go without a tree before I do plastic.

Short video on my Uncle's retail side (does a PILE of wholesale Christmas greens)



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In my area, northeast Missouri, the family owned farms here are usually running about 3000 acres. Some of that is rented ground. I have no way of knowing their finances or care to but they all are driving the newest and best pickups and farm equipment, live in the nicer homes around here and take plenty of vacations every year. If they're hard up it isn't showing by the way they live.

Sounds kinda like you care a little bit.
Not caring but observing what our taxes are helping to fund. When your neighbor brags about how much he gets from subsidies on oats and barely and never raised a crop of either it seems fishy to me.

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Originally Posted by Jim1611
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In my area, northeast Missouri, the family owned farms here are usually running about 3000 acres. Some of that is rented ground. I have no way of knowing their finances or care to but they all are driving the newest and best pickups and farm equipment, live in the nicer homes around here and take plenty of vacations every year. If they're hard up it isn't showing by the way they live.

Sounds kinda like you care a little bit.
Not caring but observing what our taxes are helping to fund. When your neighbor brags about how much he gets from subsidies on oats and barely and never raised a crop of either it seems fishy to me.

There is something called "basis"...where you get paid for crops you used to raise.


I am not sure how it works.


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I dunno, but a guy I went to high school with got a "covid relief loan" for $1.3 million and it was forgiven in full. I guess COVID kept him from farming, somehow.


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I dunno, but a guy I went to high school with got a "covid relief loan" for $1.3 million and it was forgiven in full. I guess COVID kept him from farming, somehow.

I believe those were Small Business Administration loans.

Most people went into that believing it would be forgiven.


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I dunno, but a guy I went to high school with got a "covid relief loan" for $1.3 million and it was forgiven in full. I guess COVID kept him from farming, somehow.

I believe those were Small Business Administration loans.

Most people went into that believing it would be forgiven.

Well, it was. Not sure how his livelihood was taken from him because of COVID, but there go our tax dollars.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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In my area, northeast Missouri, the family owned farms here are usually running about 3000 acres. Some of that is rented ground. I have no way of knowing their finances or care to but they all are driving the newest and best pickups and farm equipment, live in the nicer homes around here and take plenty of vacations every year. If they're hard up it isn't showing by the way they live.

Sounds kinda like you care a little bit.
Not caring but observing what our taxes are helping to fund. When your neighbor brags about how much he gets from subsidies on oats and barely and never raised a crop of either it seems fishy to me.

There is something called "basis"...where you get paid for crops you used to raise.


I am not sure how it works.
I rent out what little farm ground we have. I want to put it all in CRP but they use a date back in the 1980's for the comparison. We did not have row crop on that ground, we had hay. So, the USDA has no basis to compare to. So, until the Congress changes that date, we will be renting out the ground.

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Originally Posted by drop_point
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I dunno, but a guy I went to high school with got a "covid relief loan" for $1.3 million and it was forgiven in full. I guess COVID kept him from farming, somehow.

I believe those were Small Business Administration loans.

Most people went into that believing it would be forgiven.

Well, it was. Not sure how his livelihood was taken from him because of COVID, but there go our tax dollars.

The loan applications were worded so poorly that it would be a miracle if they were ever paid back.


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In my area, northeast Missouri, the family owned farms here are usually running about 3000 acres. Some of that is rented ground. I have no way of knowing their finances or care to but they all are driving the newest and best pickups and farm equipment, live in the nicer homes around here and take plenty of vacations every year. If they're hard up it isn't showing by the way they live.

Sounds kinda like you care a little bit.
Not caring but observing what our taxes are helping to fund. When your neighbor brags about how much he gets from subsidies on oats and barely and never raised a crop of either it seems fishy to me.

There is something called "basis"...where you get paid for crops you used to raise.


I am not sure how it works.
I rent out what little farm ground we have. I want to put it all in CRP but they use a date back in the 1980's for the comparison. We did not have row crop on that ground, we had hay. So, the USDA has no basis to compare to. So, until the Congress changes that date, we will be renting out the ground.

kwg

I guess it depends on the farm bill.


At times, you could build basis.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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I dunno, but a guy I went to high school with got a "covid relief loan" for $1.3 million and it was forgiven in full. I guess COVID kept him from farming, somehow.

I believe those were Small Business Administration loans.

Most people went into that believing it would be forgiven.

Well, it was. Not sure how his livelihood was taken from him because of COVID, but there go our tax dollars.

The loan applications were worded so poorly that it would be a miracle if they were ever paid back.



Makes it hard to feel sorry for the "poor little farmers" and other business owners when they got such a windfall.


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Originally Posted by drop_point
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I dunno, but a guy I went to high school with got a "covid relief loan" for $1.3 million and it was forgiven in full. I guess COVID kept him from farming, somehow.

I believe those were Small Business Administration loans.

Most people went into that believing it would be forgiven.

Well, it was. Not sure how his livelihood was taken from him because of COVID, but there go our tax dollars.

The loan applications were worded so poorly that it would be a miracle if they were ever paid back.



Makes it hard to feel sorry for the "poor little farmers" and other business owners when they got such a windfall.

It's like reparations for white farmers, how ironic when they point their fingers at the scumbags in society with BS entitlements. lololol

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Originally Posted by drop_point
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I dunno, but a guy I went to high school with got a "covid relief loan" for $1.3 million and it was forgiven in full. I guess COVID kept him from farming, somehow.

I believe those were Small Business Administration loans.

Most people went into that believing it would be forgiven.

Well, it was. Not sure how his livelihood was taken from him because of COVID, but there go our tax dollars.

The loan applications were worded so poorly that it would be a miracle if they were ever paid back.



Makes it hard to feel sorry for the "poor little farmers" and other business owners when they got such a windfall.


We looked into them...but they couldn't be used for anything we needed.

There were other loans available too. One for employee retention and one for operating expenses.


Everyone said just to do it.....they wouldn't want it back.


The old woman is too honest.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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I dunno, but a guy I went to high school with got a "covid relief loan" for $1.3 million and it was forgiven in full. I guess COVID kept him from farming, somehow.

I believe those were Small Business Administration loans.

Most people went into that believing it would be forgiven.

Well, it was. Not sure how his livelihood was taken from him because of COVID, but there go our tax dollars.

The loan applications were worded so poorly that it would be a miracle if they were ever paid back.



Makes it hard to feel sorry for the "poor little farmers" and other business owners when they got such a windfall.


We looked into them...but they couldn't be used for anything we needed.

There were other loans available too. One for employee retention and one for operating expenses.


Everyone said just to do it.....they wouldn't want it back.


The old woman is too honest.


Good for her.

My small business could have gotten one, but it just wasn't honest to take it.


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It's like reparations for white farmers, how ironic when they point their fingers at the scumbags in society with BS entitlements. lololol

I know a farmer that complains all the time about "them n*$@$r welfare bums who keep dropping babies" all the time, but his subsidies could make a good living for ten people. He also took a COVID "loan" he didn't have to pay back.

My father about went broke farming, but he never took a dime.


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Originally Posted by drop_point
I dunno, but a guy I went to high school with got a "covid relief loan" for $1.3 million and it was forgiven in full. I guess COVID kept him from farming, somehow.

I believe those were Small Business Administration loans.

Most people went into that believing it would be forgiven.

Well, it was. Not sure how his livelihood was taken from him because of COVID, but there go our tax dollars.

The loan applications were worded so poorly that it would be a miracle if they were ever paid back.



Makes it hard to feel sorry for the "poor little farmers" and other business owners when they got such a windfall.


We looked into them...but they couldn't be used for anything we needed.

There were other loans available too. One for employee retention and one for operating expenses.


Everyone said just to do it.....they wouldn't want it back.


The old woman is too honest.


Good for her.

My small business could have gotten one, but it just wasn't honest to take it.



Thanks , Jim and Drop Point for being honest.. I also likely could have gotten some money for being self employed. I could hardly imagine doing that.. However, I have a BIL with a small company that took $32,000. How Son in Law took $410,000 . . It should be payed back with at least some interest.


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