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Maybe a Colt Peacemaker?


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Not trying to high jack this thread, but Im sure there are some 1911s still floating around in the US Military?

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I have a friend who was in Vietnam war.

He talked about single action colts. Used when clearing tunnels. Elmer Keith sent him cartridges that had 22 shorts imbedded backwards in the slugs.

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Beretta 92 is better than the Glock or Sig.


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My real life experience with the M9 for both service use, extensive marksmanship competitions, and my personal 92FS.

Far too big for the cartridge particularly 9mm ball, bulky grip which females and dudes with smaller hands found challenging, and some magazines from one manufacturer that were garbage (but of course the pistol took the blame). Also, no possibility of changing sights or mounting lights/lasers until the M9A3.

The other side of the coin: I won 3 matches with mine so they are accurate (just like the 1911 when they aren't slap arsed worn out), utterly reliable (see the magazine comment), and a real beast when loaded with modern HP's for home defense.

To say the Sig wasn't tested is a fallacy. The real draw of the P320 design for we in the military was the grip modules which could be tailored to large or small hands. The same weapon was easily converted for OSI or other troops that need a small, concealable pistol. Plus it reduces inventory as the undercover weapon was the Sig M11 (P228 and P229 in 9MM). Also, better sights and a pic rail for accessories.

My experience shows that both weapons have plusses and minuses, but both have their place. My experience tends to favor the Sig.

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Wonder how many conversations sounded just like this when the M9 replaced the 1911.


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Pre Desert Storm the Ruger beat the Beretta but they picked the Beretta because they needed Italian airspace to attack Kuwait.

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Originally Posted by Steelruger22
Wonder how many conversations sounded just like this when the M9 replaced the 1911.

Yep.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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He says the Beretta was better, and that they never did the testing on the Sig before adoption.


I think that guy takes the opposite view of the popular opinion, no matter what.

Watched a few of his videos, but stopped when he spent an entire video trashing the M-14 as a worthless failure.

It seems he makes a point to trash whatever military arms replaced the previous ones... Granted, some military rifles could have been better, but many were cornerstones of today's modern arms.


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Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
Beretta 92 is better than the Glock or Sig.

Throw some dirt on it and get back to us.

It is a pavement pistol, fine for law enforcement.

Sucks as a service pistol.




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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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He says the Beretta was better, and that they never did the testing on the Sig before adoption.


I think that guy takes the opposite view of the popular opinion, no matter what.

Watched a few of his videos, but stopped when he spent an entire video trashing the M-14 as a worthless failure.

It seems he makes a point to trash whatever military arms replaced the previous ones... Granted, some military rifles could have been better, but many were cornerstones of today's modern arms.

I'll stick with my Whitworth thank you very much.


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The Glock 19 would have worked great.

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
The Glock 19 would have worked great.

Sure if you are a homo or a woman.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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The Glock 19 would have worked great.

Sure if you are a homo or a woman.


He's both.


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Originally Posted by Garandimal
Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
Beretta 92 is better than the Glock or Sig.

Throw some dirt on it and get back to us.

It is a pavement pistol, fine for law enforcement.

Sucks as a service pistol.




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My cousin was a sniper in the Canadian Armed Forces and served in Afghanistan. For sidearms, the CAF have traditionally used the Browning Hi-Power. I am surprised to see that they are transitioning to the SIG P320. I had not heard that, but I guess that at some time you have to retire the Hi-Power which was adopted in 1944.

Since retiring from the CAF, my cousin has been involved in several ventures, including training civilian shooters in long range shooting and training Iraqi Armed forces as a contractor. As a contractor, he could carry anything he wanted. His choices are a Glock 17 and an AK47.

So a former CAF sniper chose a Glock 17 as his sidearm while working in Iraq. However, I don't know if he ever tried the P320.

Just my comment.

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Originally Posted by Steelruger22
Wonder how many conversations sounded just like this when the M9 replaced the 1911.
I remember them.

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Originally Posted by Garandimal
Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
Beretta 92 is better than the Glock or Sig.

Throw some dirt on it and get back to us.

It is a pavement pistol, fine for law enforcement.

Sucks as a service pistol.




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Reliability was only an issue with Checkmate made magazines, because they were parkerized, so retained sand. Beretta mags were polished, blued steel, so the follower just slipped past any sand grit in the mag.

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