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You confused old boomer do you know what year it is?

I ve carried every day at work in the military and as a Leo 34 years and as a FIC I trained hundreds of military and Leo’s how to shoot And I’ve been to colt Sig and Glock amorer schools . I tested the sigs and glocks for feedback and taught FI classes at FLETC and Artesia and completed in the army

What do you and Johnny vodka bring to this thread?

There might be a 19X in the pickup...



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Happy Easter.

Not counting the military contracts, the movies Lethal Weapon and Die Hard did more for civilian and police sales of the Beretta 92 than anything.

Ron

They sent G19x with safety similar to SiG or S&W M&P. Despite what "Mr. I got my permit at 17" replaceable backstraps do not constitute modular design. Nobody really cares if some of you disapprove of SiG M17 or M18.

I can think of no one with less credibility than you to comment.

Does anyone know if Glock sent an off the shelf pistol to be evaluated?

I CAN NOT find it anymore - but I distinctly remember a youtube discussion around the Glock vs Sig vs Beretta discussion. DOD wanted a manual thumb safety or decocker. Sig, sent their M17 with a thumb safety. Glock sent a bone stock G17 figuring "We're Glock, take it and like it".

I know you can have a safety installed on the Glock - just trying to see if I'm mis-remembering a youtube video I saw from years ago. So figured I'd ask - does anyone here know what Glock actually sent and if it actually met parameters that way?

When Mr. Potato Head modularity is the decisive factor for awarding contracts, with little girl grips most important, how good a gun you gonna need anyhow? We ain't fightin' no more real wars, except culture ones. Tranny pistols is what you want....

In the 80s and 90s - every action flick had a bad guy with a stainless or nickel 92.

Desert storm was years after the M9 was adopted

LOL!

No doubt!

Everything he knows about the subject can fit easily on the point of a needle!

Pre Desert Storm the Ruger beat the Beretta but they picked the Beretta because they needed Italian airspace to attack Kuwait.

Good guys, too. Die Hard and Lethal Weapon come to mind.

I've got no skin in the game and only reported what a man I knew at the time that was present at the trials Ruger competed in. He told me it was the most reliable. They were late and didn't compete in the first two trials and some manufacturers boycotted the third. Beretta had won the first two and they went with it.
The P85 was originally developed as a replacement alternative for the U.S. Military's 1984 Joint Service Small Arms Program, a venture to replace the aging M1911A1 to a higher-capacity, NATO-compliant weapon. The P85 met all of the military's requirements, including a 20,000-round life expectancy. Despite this, the P85 was not completed in time for the first two trials. It was, however, able to compete in the later XM10 trials in 1988, for which Ruger supplied 30 P85s to the Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland. Despite performing well, the Beretta M9, which had succeeded at winning the previous two competitions, won once again and was awarded the contract.

The Ruger P85 did find success with some police departments and civilians, as its rugged design and military qualities did see it adopted by the San Diego Police Department and the Wisconsin State Patrol.[4] Both P85s and P89s were approved for carry by the Chicago Police Department. The P85 was also adopted by the Turkish National Police.[5] In 2004, the US Army awarded Ruger & Co., Inc. a contract for 5,000 KP95D pistols to be delivered to the Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command, which issued them to Iraqi Army and Police units.[6][7]