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They need to start assuming these crazies are going try to kill them.



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Wow that's very graffic. Thank God for the man that took down the perp

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
They need to start assuming these crazies are going try to kill them.


Assume that and do what next?


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. They need to start assuming these crazies are going try to kill them.

Oh, great. They are already doing Mag dumps at the Drop of an Acorn, how much more do you want.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
They are already doing Mag dumps at the Drop of an Acorn, how much more do you want.

Maybe murder a 15 year old kidnap victim? Then go home on time.


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Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
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They are already doing Mag dumps at the Drop of an Acorn, how much more do you want.

Maybe murder a 15 year old kidnap victim? Then go home on time.
That too.


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Originally Posted by MOGC
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
They need to start assuming these crazies are going try to kill them.


Assume that and do what next?
Maintain 20 feet distance till you get a feel for who you're dealing with, while being mentally ready for a quick draw and fire.

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As posted by another member when he responded about the 15 year old girl that was killed by cops,

"Sad, bad decision, but it happens..."

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Originally Posted by montram
As posted by another member when he responded about the 15 year old girl that was killed by cops,

"Sad, bad decision, but it happens..."
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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They need to start assuming these crazies are going try to kill them.


Assume that and do what next?
Maintain 20 feet distance till you get a feel for who you're dealing with, while being mentally ready for a quick draw and fire.

And how do you do that and get his ID, pat him down for weapons, or place handcuffs on the bad guy?


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Originally Posted by MOGC
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Originally Posted by MOGC
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
They need to start assuming these crazies are going try to kill them.


Assume that and do what next?
Maintain 20 feet distance till you get a feel for who you're dealing with, while being mentally ready for a quick draw and fire.

And how do you do that and get his ID, pat him down for weapons, or place handcuffs on the bad guy?
Follow the constitution


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I hope the cop bashers in here handle all their own messes when chit goes down. Pretty easy to be an arm chair QB, isnt it? Not saying their arent bad cops, there most certainly are, but this guy just got murdered by some pile of dog chit and it happens all the time. Easy to run your mouths and just bash the people who are trying to protect you

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Originally Posted by gunchamp
I hope the cop bashers in here handle all their own messes when chit goes down. Pretty easy to be an arm chair QB, isnt it? Not saying their arent bad cops, there most certainly are, but this guy just got murdered by some pile of dog chit and it happens all the time. Easy to run your mouths and just bash the people who are trying to protect you

Good post.

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Originally Posted by MOGC
And how do you do that and get his ID, pat him down for weapons, or place handcuffs on the bad guy?
If it seems like he's got a knife (because you spent a minute 20 feet away assessing his behavior while interacting with him), then you draw your gun and tell him to put it down while you call for back up. He takes a step towards you, you fire.

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Originally Posted by gunchamp
I hope the cop bashers in here handle all their own messes when chit goes down. Pretty easy to be an arm chair QB, isnt it? Not saying their arent bad cops, there most certainly are, but this guy just got murdered by some pile of dog chit and it happens all the time. Easy to run your mouths and just bash the people who are trying to protect you
There is no scenario in life where I would ever call a LEO for assistance.

Go ahead, call for help, just don’t be surprised when you end up dead.


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Originally Posted by gunchamp
I hope the cop bashers in here handle all their own messes when chit goes down. Pretty easy to be an arm chair QB, isnt it? Not saying their arent bad cops, there most certainly are, but this guy just got murdered by some pile of dog chit and it happens all the time. Easy to run your mouths and just bash the people who are trying to protect you

We’re it not for the political class’s henchmen, I’d have approached the repeat loser with 12 gauge at the ready. From a distance of no less than 10 yards, I’d have told the fugger to get lost. What happened thereafter would depend on the other individuals’s response. My extreme hope would be that we never encountered each other again.

That said, my deepest condolences to the loved ones of the deceased.



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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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And how do you do that and get his ID, pat him down for weapons, or place handcuffs on the bad guy?
If it seems like he's got a knife (because you spent a minute 20 feet away assessing his behavior while interacting with him), then you draw your gun and tell him to put it down while you call for back up. He takes a step towards you, you fire.

It doesn't work that way. If the bad guy is laid back and chill, the officer then closes to conduct business and it is then the bad guy explodes and attacks. You're forgetting something very important, the other guy has a say in what happens also. You have your script, but so does he. And what he decides to do also decides what you do. So you are reacting to his action. Action beats reaction.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MOGC
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by MOGC
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
They need to start assuming these crazies are going try to kill them.


Assume that and do what next?
Maintain 20 feet distance till you get a feel for who you're dealing with, while being mentally ready for a quick draw and fire.

And how do you do that and get his ID, pat him down for weapons, or place handcuffs on the bad guy?
Follow the constitution

I wish your mom would kick you out of the basement. Or ground you from the Internet for a while.


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Being a police officer or deputy sheriff has always been a dangerous job. Here is an incident that happened to officers long before any or us was born. (From a friend of mine in Los Angeles.)

"In January 1857, a group of outlaws terrorized the citizens of San Juan Capistrano (Los Angeles County in 1857), committing robberies and murder. Los Angeles County Sheriff James Barton formed a posse of five men and rode south. On January 23, 1857, near a mound of land located at the now 405 and 133 freeway interchange and along the San Diego Creek Trail, a large gun battle ensued between Barton’s posse and the outlaws. During the gunfight Sheriff James R. Barton, Deputy Charles F. Daly and Constables William H. Little and Charles K. Baker were slain. Multiple posses from Los Angeles County eventually tracked down and arrested the outlaws.

The site of this shootout, known as Barton Mound, was well documented in 1857 and
was registered as State Landmark 218 in 1935. All four men are listed in
the California Police Officers Memoriam as Killed in the Line of Duty. ..."

Bad guys have always been with us.

FWIW.

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Dadgummit. That guy who tried to help will have a tough row to hoe. He did his best, but it didn't pan out.


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