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Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Being a police officer or deputy sheriff has always been a dangerous job.

L.W.
LOL, LEO isn’t even in the top 20 most dangerous jobs in America.

Hell, Being a garbage collector is ranked more dangerous than being a cop.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Being a police officer or deputy sheriff has always been a dangerous job.

L.W.
LOL, LEO isn’t even in the top 20 most dangerous jobs in America.

Hell, Being a garbage collector is ranked more dangerous than being a cop.

Honestly, there's more dangerous professions, yes. I work in one myself. You let your guard down for even a second and you'll be dead. One member here years ago was in agriculture and had an unspeakable tragedy occur. Life altering.

But the risk of "dealing with the public" type professions, the danger of being a cop is there, and it's real. There's no denying that.

There's absolutely no need to be a POS when responding to a thread like this though. But keep doubling down...


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Being a police officer or deputy sheriff has always been a dangerous job.

L.W.
LOL, LEO isn’t even in the top 20 most dangerous jobs in America.

Hell, Being a garbage collector is ranked more dangerous than being a cop.

Honestly, there's more dangerous professions, yes. I work in one myself. You let your guard down for even a second and you'll be dead. One member here years ago was in agriculture and had an unspeakable tragedy occur. Life altering.

But the risk of "dealing with the public" type professions, the danger of being a cop is there, and it's real. There's no denying that.

There's absolutely no need to be a POS when responding to a thread like this though. But keep doubling down...
Just stating the facts, again, if you can’t handle the truth, then just keep being you.

Garbage collector in the top 20

https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-united-states


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Where was this?


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Steve beat his dìck to this 12 times just today lol


Like it was Rodney King hahahaha

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Originally Posted by MOGC
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And how do you do that and get his ID, pat him down for weapons, or place handcuffs on the bad guy?
If it seems like he's got a knife (because you spent a minute 20 feet away assessing his behavior while interacting with him), then you draw your gun and tell him to put it down while you call for back up. He takes a step towards you, you fire.

It doesn't work that way. If the bad guy is laid back and chill, the officer then closes to conduct business and it is then the bad guy explodes and attacks. You're forgetting something very important, the other guy has a say in what happens also. You have your script, but so does he. And what he decides to do also decides what you do. So you are reacting to his action. Action beats reaction.



What's wrong with you posting stuff like this?
Discussing OODA loop, reaction time. Deception, surprise.


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It's never a shock. Never a reaction. Always immediate action.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Where was this?




Las Cruces.
Probably the same department that took out the scum from your post yesterday.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
What's wrong with you posting stuff like this?
Discussing OODA loop, reaction time. Deception, surprise.


Rambo always knows what gonna happen, how, and when.
It's never a shock. Never a reaction. Always immediate action.

95% of the Campfire are Rambo.
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Originally Posted by gunchamp
I hope the cop bashers in here handle all their own messes when chit goes down. Pretty easy to be an arm chair QB, isnt it? Not saying their arent bad cops, there most certainly are, but this guy just got murdered by some pile of dog chit and it happens all the time. Easy to run your mouths and just bash the people who are trying to protect you

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Once I was walking home, observing the usual social distance from other pedestrians when two street preachers, assuming I was homeless, walked right up into my personal space. If they woulda had violent criminal intent I woulda gone down, almost no warning.

Nothing like this tragedy here but in normal social interactions people can potentially get the jump on you easily.

How many hundreds or thousand of times every day could a Cop somewhere potentially be attacked that way going about their ordinary duties?

I dunno how you would train for surprise attacks, if you’re training for it the attack ain’t a surprise.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
I dunno how you would train for surprise attacks, if you’re training for it the attack ain’t a surprise.
He knew he was approaching repeat trespasser derelict who was young and in good shape. Different situation than what you're talking about.

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Officer Hernandez was trying to be nice and as the video guys said he got too close.
Never trust a dopehead who's down on his/her luck. Their life means very little to them and they're mad at the world because of the way their life is going.
They're not thinking normal nor reasonable.

The dopehead would have killed the property owner if he confronted him.
Everything is someone else's fault to a dopehead addict.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
He knew he was approaching repeat trespasser derelict who was young and in good shape.

I encounter people just like that quite often grin ‘course I ain’t trying to enforce a law on ‘em either.

Weren’t this the first-ever Cop fatality for Las Cruces? I lived there years ago.

Prob’ly that Cop had done that sort of thing with a bunch of homeless druggies like that over the years. Just an error in judgement this time is all


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
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Where was this?




Las Cruces.
Probably the same department that took out the scum from your post yesterday.



Geez.


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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
What's wrong with you posting stuff like this?
Discussing OODA loop, reaction time. Deception, surprise.


Rambo always knows what gonna happen, how, and when.
It's never a shock. Never a reaction. Always immediate action.

95% of the Campfire are Rambo.
But better.

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Haha. Yeah. Rambos all.

Lol.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
What's wrong with you posting stuff like this?
Discussing OODA loop, reaction time. Deception, surprise.


Rambo always knows what gonna happen, how, and when.
It's never a shock. Never a reaction. Always immediate action.

95% of the Campfire are Rambo.
But better.

Post of the year



Haha. Yeah. Rambos all.

Lol.



Been told I think too much.
I guess others don't ponder as deeply?

It's so nice to buy a gun for protection and feel secure.
Put it in a drawer, or safe, with the ammo, separate.
And be safe.

Or, carry it.
Knowing that by-golly I'm safe now.


The best cop, DEVGRU, Delta operator is an easy target.

The cop in the video made mistakes.
If I understood right, dealing with those situations was his assignment.
That guy went from 0 to 100 instantly,
complaceny is a normal human condition.
WE ALL DO IT!

Understanding that we get complacent, that we are always vulnerable,
are keys to being less vulnerable.

When you know you've got it, when you think it's OK,
you are most vulnerable.


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way to close, he did not react (see) the knife until it was too late, his retreat resulted in a fall to the ground. Backup was not present when contact was made. Back up arrived to late to make a difference. Waiting for back up would have changed things considerably. Getting a 90 on the suspect would have been a huge advantage in that incident. Bad outcome. But, in one way or another bad outcomes occur. Not all calls end with "and they lived happily ever after" . Dangerous business at times.

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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
He knew he was approaching repeat trespasser derelict who was young and in good shape.

I encounter people just like that quite often grin ‘course I ain’t trying to enforce a law on ‘em either.
Key distinction.

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I ain't no Rambo and not an expert but have had some training.

It's all about awareness. Jeff Cooper's color code comes to mind. God rest his soul but this cop was not prepared.

He panicked, this is plain from the vid....distance is always your best defense, next cover/concealment, which may even come first.

Control the knife hand, first principle in a knife encounter, whatever it takes to do this then a savage kick to the groin or finger jab to the eyes, He backed up straight away and tripped. Probably bogged down by all the equipment attached to his body.

Easy for us "armchair rambos" to say but what would you do?

Fentanyl will probably always be available but the open border comes to mind.

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