Does this belong in the Do you believe in God thread?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Can you give an example of chaos in this exercise?
@jameslavish
If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.
I stopped to think about it and..................................................
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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Brownian motion is when a chemical experiment gives unexpected results. Chaos is when the chemical experiment requires a fire extinguisher.
@jameslavish
If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.
y'all are gettin a bit spooky fer this place ya know.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
"They" started losing me when I read some book about string theory a few years back and I realized I was starting to grasp it.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Chaos is very ordered, what appears to be random, is the system moving into another "basin of attraction (stability).
Brownian motion is random by definition..................yes.
But, is that because it hasn't been observed on a long enough time scale to see if it truly is?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Brownian motion produces the information harvested by Chaos into fractals, as Twitter harvests information from society into topics or snowflakes harvest water molecules from clouds to grow.
There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
Brownian motion produces the information harvested by Chaos into fractals, as Twitter harvests information from society into topics or snowflakes harvest water molecules from clouds to grow.
pretty poetic but not accurate. Brownian motion is the physical discription of the Bell Curve. There are to types of fractals, iterated complex numbers, Julia,Mandelbrot,and Fiboccinai- The Disney mouse ears are a familiar one to most people. as I recall if you divide the iteration by the next smaller one it approaches the Golden Spiral. Another familiar example is the Butterfly wing analogy. The other types are Hopf bifurcations of the 2nd order and high order phase plots types.
Twitter and especially Google uses fuzzy logic AI chips to redefine the definition of sets. it "fuzzies" the definition of the topic so it may fit into the set. Ex. when does a river become long. instead of a hard set, ex. a river is long at 6mi.
programmers have a special name for this but it slips my memory set currently
Used to be a roller coaster named Chaos at OpryLand USA but not to be confused with The Wabash Cannonball coaster. Of course there was also The Screamin’ Delta Demon too. Over near where them chickens played tit tack doe.
Myself I wouldn’t step foot in now so called amusement park with all of them whirly jigs. Rather be in walmarks.
Chaos is the way the dice of randomness are loaded, paraphrasing Gleick's quote of Joseph Ford in Chaos.
I find this to be a book that I will probably never realy finish, like Godel,Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadtler.
I inquired with a friend who met his wife at a Chaos convention and just retired from an illustrious career as a math professor. Will advise if he offers further enlightenment.
This is making my hair hurt so I am going to go randomize some particals of IMR4064 and hopefully produce some self-similar groups.
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
Could have sworn brownian motion was a good peaceful few minutes on the throne ,and chaos was running and hurry to drop the pants cause I am not sure I am going to get there in time.
there is no man more free than he who has nothing left to lose --unknown-- " If it bleeds we can kill it" Conan The Barbarian
Chaos is the way the dice of randomness are loaded, paraphrasing Gleick's quote of Joseph Ford in Chaos.
I find this to be a book that I will probably never realy finish, like Godel,Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadtler.
I inquired with a friend who met his wife at a Chaos convention and just retired from an illustrious career as a math professor. Will advise if he offers further enlightenment.
This is making my hair hurt so I am going to go randomize some particals of IMR4064 and hopefully produce some self-similar groups.
Gleick work is written at the layman level to introduce beginners to the concepts. If your really interested in self-organization get Herman Hakens book.
Your logic or Appeal to Authority is invalid.
While doing my post-doc work under Prof. Keener, UofU math depart. , he clearly defined the differences. Keener did the non-linear math work establishing the three dimension vectors for electrical circuits used in pace makers. His book. Mathematical Physiology comes in 2 books and is put out by Springer. The study material" Ergodic Theory, Analysis and Efficient Simulation of Dynamical Sysems. Springer Elements of Applie Bifurcation Theory. Springer Dynamics and Bifurcations. Hale and Kocak. Springer. Nonlinear System. Drazen. Cambridge texts in applied math. Solitokns in Field Theory and Nonlinear Analysis. Springer
Chaos theory has broad application. Your view appears focused on chemistry rather than the broader reality of paterns appearing throughout the universe. I don't pretend to understand how it jives with the second law of thermodynamics.
You seem snooty.
There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
Chaos is the bar, nonlinear is the drive home, and brownian is when you see the lights in the rearview mirror. Every college kid know this stuff. It always involves EtOH.
Chaos theory has broad application. Your view appears focused on chemistry rather than the broader reality of paterns appearing throughout the universe. I don't pretend to understand how it jives with the second law of thermodynamics.
You seem snooty.
Your lack of understanding for thermodynamics extends to other patterns in the universe.
Hey Ethanol, why are you asking questions to which you apparently know the answer?
Is that a rhetorical question?
seeing patterns in "things" - universe or something smaller is a basic human condition, as old as humans. Its called Apophenia, not good or bad its just there.
The campfire section offers a great variety of conspiracy theories, "black swam" maybes, etc. whether they are real or not is asking the question "If a tree falls in the forest if no one is there to hear it, did it really happen?". Doesn't really matter. Some are pretty interesting.
Hey Ethanol, why are you asking questions to which you apparently know the answer?
Is that a rhetorical question?
seeing patterns in "things" - universe or something smaller is a basic human condition, as old as humans. Its called Apophenia, not good or bad its just there.
The campfire section offers a great variety of conspiracy theories, "black swam" maybes, etc. whether they are real or not is asking the question "If a tree falls in the forest if no one is there to hear it, did it really happen?". Doesn't really matter. Some are pretty interesting.
No, but yours was. Your chosen topic isn’t really even a chemistry question, but one of probability theory. Just seems an odd topic for the Fire and more suited for graduates in Mathematics.
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