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The common problems people have, or often just fear having with red dots are pretty much negated by buying quality and mounting so the sights co-witness with the irons. Not really. Once you condition your brain to look for that dot, that's it. When the "balloon goes up," therefore, you will look for that dot and, not finding it, will keep looking till your conscious brain figures out something is wrong, which is a waste of vital seconds durig a life or death struggle. Realistically speaking, during a “life or death struggle” no sights will be needed. No need for the complexity of a red dot sight, then.
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You gonna file your iron sights off too?
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No need for the complexity of a red dot sight, then. A red dot really allows you to use a handgun at longer distances. I have made first round shots at 100 yards with my P226. It wears a Romeo Pro 1 plus suppressor height sights. Some self defense situations happen at longer ranges. Most are very short range, but not all. A red dot is a hell of a tool.
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No need for the complexity of a red dot sight, then. A red dot really allows you to use a handgun at longer distances. I have made first round shots at 100 yards with my P226. It wears a Romeo Pro 1 plus suppressor height sights. Some self defense situations happen at longer ranges. Most are very short range, but not all. A red dot is a hell of a tool. More than one type of tool on this thread.
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A red dot really allows you to use a handgun at longer distances.
I have made first round shots at 100 yards with my P226.
It wears a Romeo Pro 1 plus suppressor height sights.
Some self defense situations happen at longer ranges.
Most are very short range, but not all.
A red dot is a hell of a tool. They are making truck loads of money off of marketing them, that's for sure. It's likely that's the reason for their wild popularity of late, i.e., lots of money going into advertising and promotion of the latest and greatest gadget by big names in the shooting world who are well compensated for their advocacy.
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A red dot really allows you to use a handgun at longer distances.
I have made first round shots at 100 yards with my P226.
It wears a Romeo Pro 1 plus suppressor height sights.
Some self defense situations happen at longer ranges.
Most are very short range, but not all.
A red dot is a hell of a tool. They are making truck loads of money off of marketing them, that's for sure. It's likely that's the reason for their wild popularity of late, i.e., lots of money going into advertising and promotion of the latest and greatest gadget by big names in the shooting world who are well compensated for their advocacy. It's not lost on me that you didn't respond to Mackay's post, but did this one...
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Interesting how the difficulty of iron sight alignment has been replaced by finding the dot in the ghost ring.
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What is funny to me is that when I draw a handgun with the red dot, the fastest way to focus on the red dot, is to focus on the front sight
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a nice thing about the dot sight is no parallax, the dot does not have to be centered in the field of view of the "big ghost ring" of the sight. It can be towards or all the way to one side or top or bottom.
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What is funny to me is that when I draw a handgun with the red dot, the fastest way to focus on the red dot, is to focus on the front sight You're focusing on the dot? Why?
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What is funny to me is that when I draw a handgun with the red dot, the fastest way to focus on the red dot, is to focus on the front sight You're focusing on the dot? Why? Right. The dot should be ignored. 
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The common problems people have, or often just fear having with red dots are pretty much negated by buying quality and mounting so the sights co-witness with the irons. Not really. Once you condition your brain to look for that dot, that's it. When the "balloon goes up," therefore, you will look for that dot and, not finding it, will keep looking till your conscious brain figures out something is wrong, which is a waste of vital seconds durig a life or death struggle. All that may apply to you, but I shoot irons, red dots, scopes, and shotguns with and without ribs and occasionally with red dots on the receiver or rib. I do just fine with all of them without a struggle, even left-handed at times. Last year a buddy was pulling clays for me and chose a target for me, then added “left-handed”. I was shooting a 590s Tactical with a FF3 on a rail. I changed hands, broke the target, then looked at him and said, “Take that, bitch”. All in good fun, but you don’t know what you can do until you try, and if you don’t try, you never succeed. Don’t make assumptions about others based on your own limitations.
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What is funny to me is that when I draw a handgun with the red dot, the fastest way to focus on the red dot, is to focus on the front sight You're focusing on the dot? Why? Right. The dot should be ignored. Actually yes. Your proving your ignorance with every post.
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Actually yes.
Your proving your ignorance with every post. If it's to be ignored, don't put it on your gun to start with.
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TRH, you get an A+ for stubbornness. But you FAIL in every other category of learning.
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Clearly, no one who has one is ignoring the dot. That's BS. That was my point.
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Clearly, no one who has one is ignoring the dot. That's BS. That was my point. You don't focus on the dot, you focus on the target.
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Clearly, no one who has one is ignoring the dot. That's BS. That was my point. You don't focus on the dot, you focus on the target. You’re wasting your time trying to explain it to him. He’s not interested in learning anything past hearsay from 30+ years ago.
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it's kind of like skeet shooting you know the the dot is there but you're focused more on target and look through the dot or past the dot. my book this helps the target stay in focus and be more Target aware. and I guess some people do this easy with the dot in the front sight, it seems an awful lot of people do..
at least that's what I seem to be learning.
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it's kind of like skeet shooting you know the the dot is there but you're focused more on target and look through the dot or past the dot. my book this helps the target stay in focus and be more Target aware. and I guess some people do this easy with the dot in the front sight, it seems an awful lot of people do..
at least that's what I seem to be learning. Yes. Allows you to focus your eyes on the target as opposed to the front sight.
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