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For Prvi Partizan to have the sales reach that they do, their components have to meet certain standards. Serbia is not a CIP member, but their products undoubtedly conform to this standard because their products are offered for sale all over Europe. Serbia is not a member of the EU either, but their standing is solid within the European community WRT manufacturing. At the risk of angering some here, I believe PPU makes better brass than either Win or Rem. These two companies have nose dived in quality IMO. Unlike SAAMI, CIP standards are a legal requirement. Firearms, ammunition and components must meet the standard to be sold in any of the 14 member countries.

I have sent a request to the factory for some information about their cases. In 2015, they built a new case production facility. I believe that is when they changed headstamps. I don't know how long their products have been imported into the US, but we have been getting these and other European components up here for many years.



Former C.I.P. member state: Yugoslavia (formally dissolved in 1992)

The Permanent International Commission, confirming that the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia is no longer in existence, declared during the XXII Plenary Session that the proof marks of the Proof House at Kragujevac, Serbia, would no longer be recognised by the C.I.P. Member States with effect from 30 September 1992.

The Former Yugoslavia & CIP

Good morning. Here is the response I received from PPU. In a nutshell, their brass conforms to the standard set out by CIP and SAAMI.

Dear Mr Redgwell
 
Thank you for contacting us and for trust in PPU components.
 
PPU as ammunition producer with distribution around the world must fulfill given standards for commercial and small arms and carbine ammo.
 
Those standards are C.I.P for Europe and SAAMI for USA. So all ammunition produced by PPU fulfils requirements  given in those two standards. (ammo dimensions, max allowed pressures, etc.).
 
PPU started with “PPU headstamp” mark before 2015, maybe with beginning of 2010-2012...
 
As we said, all ammunition we produce (bullets, cases, cartridges), we producing to fulfil dimension requirements given by C.I.P and SAAMI standards.
 
The majority  of our brass cases are made of CuZn30 (CW505L, C26000) and CuZn28 ( CW504L,C25600 ).
 
If you have any more questions, ask us.
 
Best regards
R & D Project design engineer

Thanks for the report Steve. That is a nice reply from PPU.

It was great to hear back from them. PPU was helpful and answered all my questions.

A couple of years ago, I talked on the phone with, and sent information to Winchester about some problems I had with their brass. Customer service answered, but I got the brush off after I forwarded some pictures. They told me they weren't forwarding them to QC or anyone responsible for production. They offered to replace the cases, but I didn't send more pictures or write them for that reason. I wanted to communicate what I found after opening a package of their brass.

I started with 22H PPU brass straight out of the bag. It looked pretty good so instead of FL sizing it I just proceeded to prime, drop powder and seat a few bullets. (I think I had Lapua brass on the brain). I couldn't get a bullet to seat without bulging. After a few head scratches I decided to FL size the brass and try again. That worked without an issue. So, my lesson learned was to FL size the 22H PPU brassbrass first with .

BTW, 13.0 grains of Li'l Gun with a 30 Barnes VG and a 450 primer measured .8 inches, 3 shot group. 3136 FPS Avg. Not a bad start.

PPU loads their 22Hornets with .2225" bullets, so yes, resize.

Steve,

Thanks for the research on PPU!

I'm fortunate to have a pretty good stock of PPU 22H ammo. Picked it up when I couldn't find brass in 2021. I had just gotten into the 22H thing.

Cases seem robust. I have had some primer flow issues on a Savage 219b in 22H though with some factory PPU, which surprised me for I've not experienced that before with this rifle. So suspect the factory primers. I have a spare 22H barrel for an early 219 that I need to see if I get that same issue. No issues with that older 219 with 30-30. Both rifles have small rifle firing pins. Thus suspect the primers.

Anyway, should be resolved when I reload.

Thanks for the kind words. Speaking personally, I like the PPU and Hornady cases. These days I suppose, whatever you can get is best.