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The Winchesters benefit from the anti-bind features on the bolt. Takes some of the potential play out of working the bolt. I am interested to see if there is a way to modify a Kimber to add that feature.
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No pigs this evening, but the blackout was blooded. Good to see the BO is settling into its new home. Waiting for pig pics. My boy wants to see one killed with it. Bb
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We’ve had more than 10 inches of rain over the last few days that’s slowing me down, but I will try to get some on the ground soon. Will post them up here when accomplished.
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Yes, the Winchester classic or pre64 is a smoother action. That's absolutely not my experience. +1 Love my p-64's and love my Kimbers, like picking between my daughters, but wow that statement made me jump in my seat
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Yes, the Winchester classic or pre64 is a smoother action. That's absolutely not my experience. I have the opposite experience to Brad. Thought it’s with probably smaller numbers for Kimber (a couple of Montanas) and atypical Winchester’s (match rifles with hundreds of thousands of cycles).
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The Winchesters benefit from the anti-bind features on the bolt. Takes some of the potential play out of working the bolt. I am interested to see if there is a way to modify a Kimber to add that feature. Not all Winchester’s have the Anti Bind feature. I believe they started in the later production post rifles. The pre-64’s didn’t have it (didn’t need it with the claw extractor running the length of the bolt).
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The Winchesters benefit from the anti-bind features on the bolt. Takes some of the potential play out of working the bolt. I am interested to see if there is a way to modify a Kimber to add that feature. Not all Winchester’s have the Anti Bind feature. I believe they started in the later production post rifles. The pre-64’s didn’t have it (didn’t need it with the claw extractor running the length of the bolt). These are on a pre-64. They engage the rear bridge opposite the bolt handle to keep the bolt in line as you apply force to the handle driving it home. This is what I’m referring to. I have been discussing adding something like this to a Kimber.
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My idea of perfect. Handles like a rapier! WBY MK V Backcountry Titanium 2.0 6.5 RPM Maven RS2 2x10x38 Always under .75" at 100. 127 LRX at 3150 plus FPS. Will do for just about everything Hey look a 3k dollar piece of shìt lol Ps crf is dumb and pointless
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The Winchesters benefit from the anti-bind features on the bolt. Takes some of the potential play out of working the bolt. I am interested to see if there is a way to modify a Kimber to add that feature. Not all Winchester’s have the Anti Bind feature. I believe they started in the later production post rifles. The pre-64’s didn’t have it (didn’t need it with the claw extractor running the length of the bolt). [img] https://i.imgur.com/FieCUzQ. I’m jpeg[/img] These are on a pre-64. They engage the rear bridge opposite the bolt handle to keep the bolt in line as you apply force to the handle driving it home. This is what I’m referring to. I have been discussing adding something like this to a Kimber. We are speaking of different anti-bind features. The one I’m referring to is the longitudinal slot cut into the lug (right side iirc) that rode on a corresponding rib alongside the raceway. I’ll try to get a pic up.
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I also find the Kimbers as smooth as Win. M 70s. I also don't need to carry a 9# rifle anymore.
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Kimber montana SS in 280AI, Leupold Varix III 2.5-8 in silver.
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Just compared my Kimber to my pre 64. The Kimber is smoother until you lock the bolt down than it is harder. The pre64 won't slide back and forth like the Kimber (depending on the angle of the barrel), but it goes into battery easier.
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Ps crf is dumb and pointless Which is often said about CCW, 4wd, etc Maybe…..until it isn’t.
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Ps crf is dumb and pointless Which is often said about CCW, 4wd, etc Maybe…..until it isn’t. This isn't 1940. Crf is pointless.
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Ps crf is dumb and pointless Which is often said about CCW, 4wd, etc Maybe…..until it isn’t. This isn't 1940. Crf is pointless. Interesting point. I forgot how the calendar affects reliable feeding, extraction and ejection. However, this thread isn’t really a discussion debating the merits of CRF alone. This thread is a discussion of a rifle concept. Primarily a rifle designed to be lightweight and compact while incorporating a suppressor and maintaining reliability under harsh use. Your first post was to denigrate a rifle that seems to be exhibit some positive qualities without really expressing any specific criticisms. Perhaps you can expound further on why that rifle isn’t worthy of further consideration.
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Hey look a 3k dollar piece of shìt lol
Ps crf is dumb and pointless Oh boy. The lowered, noisy Honda civic crowd just found the thread.
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Ps crf is dumb and pointless Which is often said about CCW, 4wd, etc Maybe…..until it isn’t. This isn't 1940. Crf is pointless. LOL….CRF is definitely not pointless, but your first sentence is.
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Ps crf is dumb and pointless Which is often said about CCW, 4wd, etc Maybe…..until it isn’t. This isn't 1940. Crf is pointless. Interesting point. I forgot how the calendar affects reliable feeding, extraction and ejection. However, this thread isn’t really a discussion debating the merits of CRF alone. This thread is a discussion of a rifle concept. Primarily a rifle designed to be lightweight and compact while incorporating a suppressor and maintaining reliability under harsh use. Your first post was to denigrate a rifle that seems to be exhibit some positive qualities without really expressing any specific criticisms. Perhaps you can expound further on why that rifle isn’t worthy of further consideration. Because Weatherby, and especially that model, sucks. You want a lightweight rifle that works? Buy a tikka, cut/thread, and go shoot. Or fiddle-fùck with garbage (kimber)...your choice.
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My big game rifles in order. 1. CZ 550 in 500 Jeffery. Action as solid as a bank vault, smooth too. Shoots sub MOA even with me shooting. Has Wayne's (AHR) CZ #1 upgrade (single stage match trigger, 3 pos M70 type safety, straighten and fill bolt) Nothing to improve on. 2. 1968 BDL in 270 Win (bottom in picture) My only rifle for almost 30 years. Have taken many elk, 9 bears dozens of deer etc. Still shoots nickel sized groups with 150g Partitions at 3000 fps 3. Top in picture. Rem XCR II in 375 Weatherby Mag, weighs 7 1/2 lbs with scope. Mods include Sako extractor, heavier firing pin and spring, bolt welded on. Shoots 375 H&H factory or 375 Weatherby. TriNyte coated.
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Hey look a 3k dollar piece of shìt lol
Ps crf is dumb and pointless Oh boy. The lowered, noisy Honda civic crowd just found the thread. Evidently.... Nothing wrong with that combo. Light and accurate. Killed truckloads of game with my Bees and everyone of them is sub moa.
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