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The Liberal definition of 'Loophole' is.....

You're doing something we don't like and there's no Law against it, but we want one!!!!

Much like the so called Tax Loopholes that the rich use to pay less taxes......

If it's Law or Code it's not a loophole.

BTW the judge is an Obama appointee....


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Originally Posted by Muffin
The Liberal definition of 'Loophole' is.....

You're doing something we don't like and there's no Law against it, but we want one!!!!

Much like the so called Tax Loopholes that the rich use to pay less taxes......

If it's Law or Code it's not a loophole.

BTW the judge is an Obama appointee....
Right. The so called gun show loophole isn't a loophole. It's an intentional protection of the right of gun owners to buy and sell with each other without involving any aspect of government.

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Honestly, please tell me WTF the FEDGOV does for me, why should it continue to exist in this state. Explain it to me like I take experimental gene modification injections under waiver of compensation in case of injury...

They create millions of jobs for people who want the citizens to pay them a large pension. While joe average gets enough to scrape by on ice-water & blony sammichs .


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Wonder why Texas and Oklahoma aren’t on that list?

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Originally Posted by scottf270
The burden of legality to own a gun should be on the buyer not the seller. The seller should ask for valid ID to establish age and residency. Once that is established, seller should have no further duty in the matter. The law really is crystal clear.

Do you suppose age was a factor in gun ownership or usage in the early days of our country?


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Although I deplore this egregious example of Fed agency overreach, I think there is some hysteria and over reaction to the new rule. Reading the actual text of section B, it's fairly clear that we are still covered under FOPA 1985, AND IT'S DEFINITIONS of casual firearms transactions, which specifically state the exceptions for private owners.
You wanna load up your motorhome with guns, hit the road, do several shows a year, renting tables and selling and buying without a license...you could be in trouble. If you liquidate an estate for the unrelated widow next door...you may get in trouble, if you accept money or trade for doing it.
If you hit 2 or 3 shows a year, looking to liquidate an inheritance, or upgrading your personal collection...looks to me like you are covered under FOPA 1985.

And shame on the promoter for canceling the Missoula show. Eager compliance from fear and ignorance enables the Feds to shove this crap down our throats.

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Originally Posted by Hoosier_Beagler
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... They closed the "gun show loophole" by killing gun shows. Mission accomplished. mad

Negative. Ultimate goal is total disarmament of the general populace...

Never forget that they want to disarm us because they want to do things that they know we will kill them for if we still have guns...

So you're saying that total disarmament is NOT the ultimate goal because they want to do things afterward. It's a war with many battles and missions.

Correct. Better stated. ala Mao, Stalin, Castro, et al...



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Originally Posted by Caplock
Wonder why Texas and Oklahoma aren’t on that list?
That’s a good question!


Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.

The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Although I deplore this egregious example of Fed agency overreach, I think there is some hysteria and over reaction to the new rule. Reading the actual text of section B, it's fairly clear that we are still covered under FOPA 1985, AND IT'S DEFINITIONS of casual firearms transactions, which specifically state the exceptions for private owners.

And shame on the promoter for canceling the Missoula show. Eager compliance from fear and ignorance enables the Feds to shove this crap down our throats.

Private individuals do not have the financing the fight governments with unlimited resources (read...citizen taxes who have 2A rights) to fight these battles in court. And despite FOPA 1985, legally correct gunshow folks don't wanna go bankrupt winning their case.

Thanks to Arkansas governor taking this one up.

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Originally Posted by Caplock
Wonder why Texas and Oklahoma aren’t on that list?

Or, unless I missed it.... FLORIDA.


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Originally Posted by Muffin
Originally Posted by Caplock
Wonder why Texas and Oklahoma aren’t on that list?

Or, unless I missed it.... FLORIDA.





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…and Bidet is putting some new regulation out every day and claims Trump’s joke about being “dictator for a day” to means Trump is going to declare himself a dictator for life. 😢

Bidet is trying to put in place as many new regulations as he can because I think he and his handlers are realizing they can’t get all the crazy chit through Congress and they don’t have much longer to make things happen.


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Originally Posted by scottf270
The burden of legality to own a gun should be on the buyer not the seller. The seller should ask for valid ID to establish age and residency. Once that is established, seller should have no further duty in the matter. The law really is crystal clear.

Actually, there is no constitutional age or residency requirement to possess a firearm. All gun laws are unconstitutional until the Constitution is changed.

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TFA joined as amici with Gun Owners of America on the Texas suit, I am a named plaintiff.

TFA sues ATF

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LMAO you got mental issues !! either get help or suck start a glock ...

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LMAO you got mental issues !! either get help or suck start a glock ...


I am not the one who sees a story about corrupt behavior from le and thinks the corruption will go away by paying them more.

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Wonder why Texas and Oklahoma aren’t on that list?

Or, unless I missed it.... FLORIDA.



Thanks for the update Pard!


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Must congratulate Gov. K. Stitt (R-OK) for joining in the fight!

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Originally Posted by Angus55
Applaud the 20 states, like every thing today, the few fight for the many!

The FEW... fight for THE MANY.

Brilliant statement.

Read my signature line...

I AM WITH YOU!


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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