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Looks like you’re considering options that are much better than the Viper. I’m a big Zeiss fan & think the 4-16 x 50 is tough to beat for all around hunting & ringing steel way out there.

I own an old higher power Viper & the glass is marginal the eye box unforgiving but on a 22-250 it’s been accurate. Thy have excellent products in the Razor line & vipers aren’t bad but all the others mentioned are better scopes. Look through what you can find and see what looks best to you. I like most Zeiss glass better than most Nightforce glass I’ve looked through but all the scopes in that class look great.

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I have the Vortex HST 4-16x44 mounted to an M1A SuperMatch. Great scope for the price. I really like its simplicity and the glass is very clear for the price point. I have used the Vortex warranty on a PST Gen II scope and it is an excellent warranty.

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Easy pass on any Vortex Viper models. Been there done that when Doug @ Cameraland was praising and pushing the Vortex brand years ago. Tracking and glass both sucked. I thought a cheap Nikon Prostaff scope had better glass when compared side by side. Down the road the Vipers went, never to return.

I have several Zeiss & Nightforce scopes. IMO the glass on a Conquest V4 is better than the glass on my SHV. My hunting rifles all wear Euro glass. My target rifles all wear Nightforce scopes.

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I'll also pass on the Vortex model your looking at, have Vortex Viper HS, Swaro's, Leupold and Trijicons. IMHO the Accupoint 4-16X50 is as ideal as it gets. No batteries No buttons and a bright green dot. Mine Tracks to 600(far as I've taken it). Great eyebox and eye relief is about right to boot. I'd buy more if I could find them at the price i was paying new 5yrs ago.

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Originally Posted by Ghostman
Easy pass on any Vortex Viper models. Been there done that when Doug @ Cameraland was praising and pushing the Vortex brand years ago. Tracking and glass both sucked. I thought a cheap Nikon Prostaff scope had better glass when compared side by side. Down the road the Vipers went, never to return.

I have several Zeiss & Nightforce scopes. IMO the glass on a Conquest V4 is better than the glass on my SHV. My hunting rifles all wear Euro glass. My target rifles all wear Nightforce scopes.

You must have gotten a stellar V4. The 2 I looked through, and the one I had and sold, sucked. There's no comparison in glass quality. The SHV wins, easily, hands down..


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Not looking at a Vortex anymore. After all the post. Glad I fount out before I bought one.

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