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Great shooting and thanks for sharing!

For my finger length, I like the size and power of the Glock 22/23 for an outdoors gun. I could see a 20/21 being a great rough-country gun for those who they fit well.

No Less Bauer 1911s are not loose and they run and are exceptionally accurate.

Revolvers are not less prone to function in a dirty environment, infact they will not run with semi autos in those conditions

Sorry, but this statement sounds contradictory.

Just guessing but I don’t think he meant to use a double negative. I was wondering myself.

Just guessing but I don’t think he meant to use a double negative. I was wondering myself.

Great shooting and thanks for sharing!

For my finger length, I like the size and power of the Glock 22/23 for an outdoors gun. I could see a 20/21 being a great rough-country gun for those who they fit well.

Optics on a self defense pistol are stupid.

Friends,

I was out doing some testing of loads and decided to run a couple of 6 shot drills with the 9mm 148 grain +P hardcast flatpoint, and the .45 ACP 250 grain hardcast flatpoint that I produce.

I was using a Glock 19 and a Glock 21 for the drills. BTW, the velocity for the loads are 1100 FPS for the 9mm and 925 FPS for the .45 ACP.

I was shooting at a steel plate that I had brought along. I managed to leave my stand at home but propped it up with the arm that connects to the stand. When hammering on it with the .45 it was falling over and the last round went over it as the plate fell.

The results

With the heavy .45 250 grain +Ps in the G21:

.43 was the first shot.
1.56 was the last shot.

So 1.13 seconds for 6 shots.

Bear in mind that I don't shoot competition anymore and I am not as fast as I used to be, and I didn't do any warm ups. But I figure that was good enough.

















With the little Glock 19 using the 148 grain +P flat points:


.55 reaction time to first shot.
1.57 was the 6th shot.
So 1.02 seconds for 6 shots.







I ran the G19 again, and finished at 1.58, so it was pretty obvious that that was where my "window" was for getting fast hits.




What was interesting (to me) was that there was basically a 1/10th of a second difference in time between the heavy 250 grain .45 +Ps and the 9mm 148 +Ps. The .45s definitely have more recoil, but for six shots, 1/10th of a second really is not something I am going to be concerned about. Bearing in mind that I have put a LOT of heavy loads through G21s and am used to shooting them, so that is a factor.

Either will work and I will continue to use both. It will just depend on the circumstances of where I am going and what my needs are at that time.

No Less Bauer 1911s are not loose and they run and are exceptionally accurate.

Revolvers are not less prone to function in a dirty environment, infact they will not run with semi autos in those conditions

Semi autos are more reliable in a dirty environment, this is a proven fact