Home Forums Lever Action Central Marlin 336 Lever Actions Marlin - please make a 336 in a "small" caliber...

Something like a .243 or something in 6.5mm.
I think there's a market for it, don't y'all?

Marlin is stuck on tube magazine leverguns , not conducive to handleing pointed bullet rounds like 243.

Mike

They tried it once, in the 7-30 Waters.... and the sales didn't explode right off the bat, so they dropped the idea fast.

Personally, I'd love to see them come back out with the 7-30 Waters in the 336, or something similar, maybe even in the .25 or .26 bore, on that otherwise useless .308 Marlin Express case.... give it a reason to exist and something really different and useful while they are at it.

Won't happen, though....

I'd love a "25 express" maybe equalling a 257 Robts or 250-3000 but with 100 to 120 grain flat tip bullets.

a 6.5 on the .30-30 case, sporting the 160-grain round-nose hornady, would be the cat's meow, but alas, too long for the current receiver and works. a 140-flat nose MIGHT work.
hey, don't dis the .308 express. the rifles are built to handle it are sporting a tougher receiver and works, i hear, than the standard 336 fare, and the express brass is high pressure stuff. that MIGHT mean the sub-.30s are possible ...

'Nother vote for the 25 express.
I'd buy one in a heartbeat!(Big grin!)
Virgil B.

stroke it with that 117-grain hornady round-nose?

there is the 25-35, but with better brass ...

just found some articles from a few years ago when winchester briefly re-introduced the .25-35. one fella wrote he got 2,471 fps with aa2460 and the hornady round nose in a special run win 94 in aforesaid chambering. that ain't bad.
now, if only marlin would barrel it ...

Yep, even a 25-35 would thrill me!
In a brand new XLR or a pre-64 Winchester 94.
Have owned 2 pre-64 25-35's, and let BOTH get away. (kickes toe in dirt) Someday i'll learn!
Virgil B.

Wanted to add,
A 25 express should be about like a 25-08 in performance. 117 grain Hornady should work great!...2800 FPS????
Sounds very interesting!
Virgil B.

boy, an xlr in an updated 25-35, you know, based on the new .308 express brass. i might take one of those over a 6.5/express. that'd be a 250-yard deer round par excellance ...

Marlin,
Are you listening?????
'Dat would be the introduction of the century for a gun manufacture!
Virgil B.

I like the .25�s so I thought I would take a look at the .25/.308 Marlin Express. I left the shoulder at 20 degrees and shortened the neck slightly. This leaves a cartridge which is basically a .308 Marlin Express simply necked down to .25 caliber. This imaginary cartridge would have a water capacity of approximately 51.5 grains of water.
I like the 100-grain bullets in the .250 Savage and the .25-35. I chose the 100-grain JHP bullet which is .970� long and seated the bullet .390� deep for a COAL of 2.500�. This left a water capacity of about 46.4 grains.
Using a 22� barrel (affective length of 20.4�) and loading 42.0 grains of IMR 4064 I estimate 2,950 fps with a wag at 48,000 CUP.

This is some pretty rough math as I didn�t take a lot of time looking at it. I push the 100-grain bullets to 2,800 fps in my 24� .25-35AI without difficulty.
Personally I like the .308 Marlin Express, it�s not a .307 Winchester but it is close and the Marlin 308MX is a surprising rifle � quite accurate right out of the box.

William,
Thanks for "crunching" the numbers!
Sounds like an ideal lever round to me! (BIG Grin!)
Only problem is the "pointie" bullets in the tube mag.
Virgil B.

No there ain't. That myth has been debunked repeatedly.

And, just use TTSXs, NBTs, A-Maxes, etc., and you're golden.

if yer concerned about the pointy thing, just load one in the chamber and one in the tube. it's a two shooter that way, but hey, it's whitetail rig, not a bear rig ...

william: those are very impressive numbers. thanks.

VA,
Thanks for the reminder. Old myths are hard to let go of!
Virgil B.

Y'all could just get a Savae 99 in 250-3000.

I would prefer the 25-35 AI.

BMT