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Chuck

sse- you flatter yourself that you could pull it off.

I did good on the sale of my stainless stalker .338 lefty.



Bought it for $670 in 1998. Unloaded it real fast for $600 a couple months ago with Leupy std rings/bases.



MM

How can you sleep at night,doing that to someone?.............(grin)

I think the main reason is the fact that the thread diameter of the A-bolt is 7/8 x 14 or (16). Ruger, Winchester, Mauser all have 1", followed by Remington at 1 1/16". The Browning having the least metal of them all. Less metal to work with when single pointing the threads.

GB

I guess it's true what they say,

One man's trash is another man's treasure

MM <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Laffin' here...............

Lets see, Aluminum triggergaurd and floorplate, potmetal 2 piece trigger, scope mounting holes drilled off the centerline of the action, bolt that opens if you catch it on a branch while walking in the thick stuff(with the safety on), piss poor extractor instalation, chambers reamed off center, need I go on. Yea, I talking about a Sucks action. Know why there are so many aftermarket parts for a Rem, cause you need them to make the rifle to shoot accurately and last!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



And to think I just bought a new 700SPS. Well McMillan and Jewell will be hearing from me in the near future <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

I guess I got the corner on the "fluke" market and got the Good Un's that slipped through the cracks?

Though I am of the ADL Establishment............

Standby Stick, somebody will come along and trash Winchesters next. It's just the way these threads go. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Reading this has almost been enough to make pull my old Stainless Stalker out of the gun cabinet, and give it a big hug. Nah, it's too dusty and I'd have to move too many other rifles out of the way. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Like anything,there are two sides to the story. I know what I like and why,if only because I've owned most all of 'em.

Sheesh...some even think the 30-'06 is of merit...............(grin)

Ouch, please don't publicly bash my lovechild. My nerves can't take it, and I cannot afford a therapist just now.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



MM

Here is my story FWIW. I have a 22-250 and a 270 Stalker. I really like these guns. My favorite thing about my Brownings is how they function. I have handled my dad's Rem700 and I didn't like the feel of it at all. I have handled a Ruger Mk 77.........I like the feel of it better, but not as much as my rifles. I have honestly never handled a Winchester so I can't comment on them. I recently shot a Tikka and didn't like it that much either. Now I am talking about feel. My Brownings don't shoot as good as some of yalls sound like they do, but they are 1" at 100 w/ factory stuff. I had the triggers worked on (which I later realized I could have done) and they are both bedded. I know others with these guns and they like them too.

I have no problems with my 2 rifles........otherwise I wouldn't have them anymore!

Oh, and I think they look pretty darn good too.

My .02

To MontanaMarine and all other Vets, We owe you our thanks and grattitude for the sacrafices you have made to secure our freedom.



Have a good Vetrans day!



Al Walewski, USAF 1972~1979

back at ya Al!

MM

FVA - That was the idea, but for the surroundings, not for your physique. You weren't standing in front of a wall mural at the shopping mall were you??!!

sse

I remembered after my original post that I did have a Browning break on me once. Your post reminded me to admit this to the board. I snapped my BAR in half after doing a double forward 360 with a sukkow on a 3 wheeler. The Redfield scope was no good for looking at deer either but it did make a good mirror in it's u-shaped figure. The ordeal scored an 8.4 and I walked away...well limped. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Anyway....that's the only shooter I ever broke of any brand. Hoped you walked away from yours...LOL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

this is actually the Ford, Chevy, Toyota argument

my A-bolts have served me quite well, and I appreciate aluminum and pot metal when I climb a couple thousand feet looking for an elk or somesuch

they've hit the dirt alongside me many times when I've landed on my butt in the steep stuff, and I have yet to break that trigger guard or whatever else there was a complaint about above

they're relatively lightweight, accurate, and I've never had a malfunction

the accuracy a lot of owners mention should tell you something about design and manufacturing tolerances

I have heard that the customization argument does relate to cost of the actions. I've seen pricing for customization of A-bolts, and those setups run $1-200 more than Remingtons. Remington brought the 700 action out partly because it was cheaper to build than earlier designs, and every gunsmith out there knows how to put a new trigger, stock, etc. on the thing and give it back to you for a warm fuzzy that you now own a custom gun. I think A-bolt buyers want something that works without fussing with it.

Are they the only guns that I own and think are good? No, but they're a fine rifle and I have no hesitation recommending them.

Toyotas seem to sell pretty well, and that's for a reason. I expect A-bolts will also continue to sell pretty well.

the A-bolt haters can carry what they like, and diss my rifles if they like, I'll just keep killing stuff with them

I found the following from the Rifle Shooter Web site:

"The rifle I used in the hunt described was a Browning A-Bolt II Classic. Its virtues are pleasant appearance, light weight, fast bolt cycling, good trigger and fine accuracy. So what more is there? Well it is made the newfangled way, which means a bolt which is a collection of little pins, sleeves, wire and hollow stampings. Not very confidence inspiring if you�ve had the misfortune of trying to disassemble (and reassemble) the bolt. And adding some plastic here and there doesn't help the traditional-minded amongst us fall in love. It's a good rifle, but I've gone elsewhere lately."

This is basically what I have heard about the Abolts. They are overly complex and intricate. This make the ABOLT likely to break when you use it a lot or the conditions are difficult.

I had 3 A-Bolts at one time. The first was a synthetic stocked version in '06 which I bought in 1989. I think I killed 5 muleys and 2 bears with it. Used it in sub zero weather on a mos long hunt and never had trouble with it. It was one of the most accurate and non-fussy '06s I ever owned too. I also had the first SS version in 7RM, killed a couple elk, a couple muleys, an antelope and a big bear with it. The third A Bolt was a synthetic stalker in 223 with a Leupold 3-9. The thing would put 55gr BTs in a dime. Killed a ton of coyotes with it, one A.M. I racked up 5 coyotes with it while cruising some dirt roads.



Later after joining the VHA, I learned the Remingtons were where its at so I sold all my A-Bolts. I never had a failure with A Bolts nor broke anything. All of them had rough bores and the CM barrels had pits in em, probably from hunting in the rain and snow.



MtnHtr