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Seeings Savage Co. doesn't have historical data anymore, I was hoping somebody could help me out with info on my rifle. I inherited a Savage Sporter Model 23C in 32-20. Ser #32472 (which I found under the butt plate.) There is also a number at the opening where the bolt is inserted, 34159. It has "Marble's" iron sights with a label on the front sight of "Marble Sheard". It shoots like a dream, with the lightest trigger pull I've ever shot. Any information I can get will be appreciated. Thanks.......

From the information I have the 23c was made from 1940 to 1945 the 23C shows approx 237 made total in C

I would have thought they made more of them than that?

Thanks. I could be wrong about the model number. Somebody from another site told me that. The patents range from 1915-17. I too would've thought more would be made than that. I don't usually have that kind of luck. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

The Savage 23-C is a .32-20 that was made from 1923-1942. There was a model change in 1933 that added the .22 Hornet to the .32-20 and 25-20 family. The serial at that point was 204,000. Your rifle is one of the earlier ones, mid 20's. I think the sights have been changes.

Rick....

Thank-You very much. That must mean mine was mfr'd fairly early. That's cool. This was my Grandmother's rifle, though I don't have any stories about it. It's nice to see ammo is available for it, since it looks a little tricky to reload. I have another rifle whose ammo costs $45/20 rds, in .308 Norma Magnum. I seem to have inherited a challenge. Again, thanks.........Phil

The 32-20 ammo is still resonably priced. Some are using it in the Cowboy shoots and as long as the demand stays up the price should hold.

Enjoy,
Rick....

OOPS that was for the sales year 1940 to 1945 My mistake



23s for the following years



23A 1926 to 1932 total 53,834

23B 14,462

23C 9090

23D 1750





add these years for sales

23A 1924 to 1925 14,278

23B 6,091

23C 3,907



thats all i can find

Steve,

The posting sounds like the .22's (1922, 23A & 23AA) were serialed in the same range as the centerfires. I don't think that is true as the parts manul lists the end (1933) of the 23A at 127,000 and the centerfires at 204000. Since we don't know the production from 1923 to 1926 it is hard to tell what the serial range would have been based on sales numbers. The 204000 serial is what is listed as the start of the 1933 centerfires in the Savage parts manual . This is not to say that Savage didn't skip one or more blocks of serial numbers over the years as they did on the 99's and 29's. Looks like another big black hole to be investigated one of these days.

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Humm interesting thought, I will send you the PAGE you decipher it and let me know

The mdl 23c was made from 1923 to 1946 according to what I could find, in 1933 the D was added and the B&C had some changes made .the old style was serial#below #204048,the changes that I know of was a improved cocking on opening of the bolt , also the magazine was changed to a easier to make type, the stock on your's has been changed, as the stock,buttplate and receiver should be the same. the number where the bolt enter's the receiver is the correct serial# thats all I know Hubert,,

do you have any 23's that all the numbers match???
thanks chris

I have a model 22 that all the numbers match, and a mdl 23A, but none of my other one's have all matching numbers there seems to have been a tremdious amount of part's switching among these models, even my mdl 19 and 1933 nra's donot have matching number's, rifle's with matching # are very hard to find among savage rifle's of most model's.

Rick did you get the Information I sent you about the 23's?

AND????

I got it, Steve. It looks like there was some number jumping. It's going to take time and data to make the connection between sales/production and serial numbers.

Thanks for the data,
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23A would be the 22's
23B,C & D would be the 32-20 25-20 22 hornet is what i beleive it it saying,

Steve,

In your list, there is no distiction between the 23A and 23AA. The first model is listed as the 1922 (on the other page).

The 23B = .25-20, 23C = .32-20 and the 23D = .22 Hornet

Are there numbers you can share for the 23A, 23B and 23D for 1940-45? Do you show sales of the 23D in 1932 and how many? Those numbers should cover most production/sales for the 23's.

Rick....
Rick....

The first post was SALES for 1940 to 1945 which I orginal Thought was total sales of all 23s, then I retracted it in the second post where I said "OOPS" shown sales of the 23 from the same information i gave you. I would THINK the 23A is refering to only the 23A (not 23AA) but could be wrong again, I do know that B,C,D, should be correct since it's the RECORDS of SAVAGE not someone else, then again, you never known.

Steve,

In your first post you stated the there were 237ea. Model 23C's made 1940-45. The 237 was for all 23 production, centerfire and rimfire???

Again, there is no distiction between 23A and 23AA in your listings. This is not out of line as there is no distiction in the Savage log books between 29 , 29A and 29B's, either.

Rick....

Ok Rick, let's try it once more, the page I sent you SAVAGE SALES BY MODELS 1940 to 1945

23C
1940 53
1941 70
1942 113
1943 0
1944 1
1945 0
I believe the total of 23c 1940 to 1945 should add up to 237
not all models 237

all model 23 from 1940 to 1945 would be 7,988