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I just worked up a load for the 150 E-tip with the 300 RUM. It screams yet I got very good accuracy. The bullet holes touched every time I shot the best load. It now sits for the upcoming fall elk hunts.
It was easy to find a load and fouling was very minimal. Nosler sure did their homework.
The selling point for me was the higher BC. The previous load used the 168 TSX. The 150 E-tip whips the 168 TSX: .469 vs .404.
I think it was already mentioned: the 150 E-tip is darn near the same length as the 180 nos bt.
As far as performance: John B said the E-tip opens up a bit easier than the TSX but still retains close to 100% of its weight. I am certain the E-tip will thrive on hyper velocities.
I look forward to other offerings in the future. Give us all the specifics!!!!!!!!!!!
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to prove that they can't fail which is an impossiable task. As is proving they did fail with 100% certainty.
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to prove that they can't fail which is an impossiable task. As is proving they did fail with 100% certainty. A lot of claims, but not one bit of proof one would be good at least.. The TSX are as reliable as anything out their, can you prove that staement to be false...
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, can you prove that staement to be false Can you prove it to be true? John said in the quote I posted that in 30 years he had never heard of a partition failing to open, but could not say the same for the TSX, which is pretty new compared to the partition.
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Your right as I could not find the BC of the new TTSX!
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They are posted on Barnes web site for certain calibers. Of course given past history who knows if they are accurate.
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That's true, the grooves have to slow down a bullet more than a non grooved bullet of equal weight,the "parachute effect has been discussed before,Not sure why people seem to get so worked up over the different views,Nothing wrong with the Barnes bullets for the most part,Do I think that Nosler will be "better" only time will tell!
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Not a failure to open,but still a few partition failures mentioned in this thread.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=2&Number=1828181&Searchpage=1&Main=151595&Words=%26quot%3Bpartition%26quot%3B+%26quot%3Bfailure%26quot%3B&topic=0&Search=true#Post1828181
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No, that looks like a bullet that tumbled as all do from time to time. It cleary expanded.
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They are posted on Barnes web site for certain calibers. Of course given past history who knows if they are accurate. The high BC on Barnes web site were for the Barnes X bullets (no Groves) not the TSX.. BC's can aand do vary from rifle to rifle. A new barrel with use X BC and as the barrel wears then need Y BC.... Seems Bashing Barnes is a popular past time...
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Any guess on when the Etip or TTSX will be out for a .25 cal?
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No, that looks like a bullet that tumbled as all do from time to time. It cleary expanded. Lost its rear core, and no complaints... Oh Yea thats right is not a Barnes so no big deal.... ![[Linked Image]](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/jwp475/confused.gif)
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I would much rather have a bullet lose its core after tumbling than to pencil through with little damage. And ya its not a Barnes so you would point it out.  Ra Ra Ra... ![[Linked Image]](http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/3/2_ugly_people.jpg)
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Couple of years ago, Barnes started "re-evaluating" all their BC's. For example, the 100gr 257 X bullet (not TSX) was reduced from .420 to .370. I don't have a lot of faith in what they publish.
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No, that looks like a bullet that tumbled as all do from time to time. It cleary expanded. If you read through the entire thread,there are other examples of partition failure mentioned,including some that failed to penetrate.
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I would much rather have a bullet lose its core after tumbling than to pencil through with little damage. I am waiting on the picture of the penciling through bullet.. Military FMJ's are notorious for tumbleing (which is what most non expanding bullets do) only on the internet do we find the magic bullets (that unable to be photographed) penciling straight through.... but never a picture of these elusive bullets.. Just a lot of talk..
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No, that looks like a bullet that tumbled as all do from time to time. It cleary expanded. If you read through the entire thread,there are other examples of partition failure mentioned,including some that failed to penetrate. You expect too much... Fair assesment NEVER is the cry at the campfire....
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While a b.c. difference of 0.1 may not mean much @300 yards , it does get to be significant if you stretch out the range to over 4 to 500 yards. Like an additional 200 fps in striking velocity for the higher B.C. bullet at 500 as well as reduced drop and wind drift....
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Bottom line....use what you want to use. One guy likes Chevy and one guy Likes Ford. They both pick on the other....no problem. HEY......HOW DID THAT GIRL GET DOWN????
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While a b.c. difference of 0.1 may not mean much @300 yards , it does get to be significant if you stretch out the range to over 4 to 500 yards. Like an additional 200 fps in striking velocity for the higher B.C. bullet at 500 as well as reduced drop and wind drift.... Of course their is a difference, but is it a meaningful difference? The difference between a BC of .369 & .469 at 3000 FPS, Sea Level, 59 degress, with a zero of 2 inches high at 100 yards the difference in drop at 500 yards is a whoping 4.3 inches if that is a monumental difference for you then you have absolutely no clue about shooting at long range, now if you are talking about past 600 ( which is where long range begins) instead of short to intermediate range then you have a legitimate point..
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