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Flinch,

Thanks, that eases my mind a LOT about the prospect of shopping since there are way more used 4s around.

Come to think of it, my old carpentry boss had an '87 4 cyl. and I once drove an even ton of construction debris to the dump in it. No power problem, and in fact the ride was a lot better!

No way my boat weighs 1100 since my bud and I easily lifted it by hand into the back of his Dodge.

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I'm another very satisfied Toyota owner and am waiting for the new Taco to be out in the Spring. It will be a bit larger as I presume it will be on the new 4 Runner chassis...like three inches wider in the cab.....thus wide enough between fender wells for my ATV....

Recently, I ran across an article written by a Special Forces member in Afghanistan where SF is using Taco crew cabs for their work and he was praising those little trucks....

My 98 T100 just won't quit....240K miles and just put second change of plugs and timing belt.....can't beat it

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I am sort of in the truck market my self, but first something has got to go, probably get rid of the Porsche and BMW I am tired of problem children. I like the looks of the new Toy but wonder if it will handle my camper and boat. I currently Drive a old 90 Ford F-250 Diesel, it pulls like a locomotive, rides like an old buck board, sounds like a mountain logger skidder and goes anywhere. i could keep it for camping and try a gasser, toyota, The camper is a 10 fter and pretty stout, the boat is a tin one thats not to heavy would the Tundra do the duty?

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I currently own a '02 Tundra Trd/extra cab. It is a nice truck, with an amazing engine. I regularly pull 3,500 - 5,500 lb. trailers, with a contractor box in the bed as well. My nrother is a dealer and one Sunday we did a little impromtu road test; his 18" Venture bass boat and very long curvy grade. The Tundra pulled the boat thru the gap at over 70 mph. We tried 2 different V8 Z71 Chevy trucks and neither would take the same load over the gap above 60 mph.
I have over 100k. on this one already with zero problems.
That said, I used 2 other Toyotas, Tacoma/4x4/extra cabs/ 4cyl/ automatic tranny, pickups to pull the same loads. I put over 500,000 miles on the pair with absolutely zero work under the hood, I did put plugs in both. The 4 banger auto will fool you, its not super quick, but it will roll right along.

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What kind of mileage do you guys with the Tundras get V8 or V6? Just wondering what the difference between them and the Tacoma is. OKH

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Another satisfied Toyota driver here. Here's a link to a a good web site for Tundras and and Tacomas. (You may need to register to use.)

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/

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The mileage is a big difference between full size v-8 and compact v-6. I am in the same market, but I am waiting till next year. I am thinking, crossing my fingers, that the tacoma will have the v-6 that the 2004 4runner has. 245HP!!
Anyhow, my brother in law gets 12.5 in town, and 16 on the highway with Tundra. I have heard of the v-6 tacoma getting up to 21 on the highway, and I think 17-18 around town. Hope this helps.

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I mostly drove my Tundra extended cab V8 around town for short trips - like commuting to work nearby and what not, or for driving 100 miles round trip to Boise. Got right about 16-17 mpg overall.

FWIW, I decided to trade it for an urban runabout when I moved to Boise for a job change and got a Honda Accord V-6. Lead foot me gets right about 20-21 mpg out of that in city driving, which is 99% of it's usage.


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My $.02 ..

I have a 2002 Tundra V8 TRD.. with the extended cab.. It is not only the best riding truck I've ever owned .. it's the best riding vehicle I've ever owned. However, I've never owned any thing that would be considered a "luxury" car..

It has loads of power ( Lexus motor ) .. and I get 16/17 MPG.. which does not seem to vary from around town to hghwy speeds. The "push button" 4WD is a dream and comes in handy where I live in hilly snow/ice country. I can seat 4 adults, as long as the folks in the back are not too tall ..

As far as price goes.. I wanted a nice used, low mileage truck.. Anything decent was almost as much as a new one..
So I decided to buy new, and with factory rebate and an aggressive dealer I was able to get a pretty fair deal on it..

Only one problem.......My wife loves it.. we may have to become a two Tundra family!!

GOOD LUCK..

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My wife has a 4runner that we bought new in '97
We just had it tuned up last week for the first time in 75000 miles. This is the first money we have put in it except gas and oil.
I bought a new Dodge ram the same year, Wish I could say the same for it! Was going to buy a new cummins Dodge this year, but put my "truck money" in home repairs instead.
Am now rethinking....Maybe a new Toyota truck is in my future.
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I have a '01 V6 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd with the TRD package. It is by far, the most useful vehicle I have ever owned. I have just under 50K miles on it now, and no problems. The TRD package includes a selectable locking rear differential. If I put it in 4 Lo and lock the diff, it is an absolute mountain goat. I have three kids, and there is enough room for all of us, and plenty of room for luggage in the back (I have a cap on it). On the highway, I have gotten as high as 23mpg, at higher altitudes (southern CO), but most of the time get just a smidge over 20 (TX). That's doing 70-75mph. Around town, I get 17 - 18.

Power, is ample, if you know where to find it. It's not like a V8 with lots of low-end torque, but, just shift down and get the rpms up, and it will have more power than you will ever need. You need not be afraid of hi revs with this engine. It will scream if you want it to. I have only pulled a trailer once, but it was a 16 ft. flat-bed full of furnature. It dealt with it just fine.

I'm not sure on the price, but I do know that Toyotas maintain their value better than the domestics. Do a little research, and see what the blue book is and then dicker. I think you'll love it if you get it.

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I have a 98 extra cab. That is the only problem I have with the truck is there isn't enough room for me/the wife/son and dog.

The TRD package is great, I did however remove the TRD sticker. The first thing my dad said when he saw it was why did you buy a TuRD?

I have over 130,000 miles on mine and just had the first set of plugs replaced. It is the best vehicle I have ever owned. I am going to try for the million mile club.

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Here's a question for you. How much income, state and social security taxes to the Japanese workers pay to the US?
Surly there's a US made truck that meets your requirements.


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The problem is that most likely more of the Toyota is put together by American workers than any of the GMCs, Fords, or Dodges.

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You can't play the"buy American" card with me. The Tacoma is built in Fremont, Kalifornia and if I recall, Toyota is owned by Ford. Look closely and the Tacoma reembles the Ford Ranger. I know several people that prctically ooze red, white and blue and they all drive Toyota's.

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About the same amount as the Canadians and Mexicans who put together Fords and Chevys (I am not to sure about the Dodge, but my experience with dodge products is so bad that I will never again own one.)

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Supertrucker,

For one, I'm not playing the "buy American card." If you read my post it is just the opposite. And secondly, Toyota is not owned by Ford. Toyota is an independent company and publically traded (symbol TOYOF).

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For one, I'm not playing the "buy American card." If you read my post it is just the opposite. And secondly, Toyota is not owned by Ford. Toyota is an independent company and publically traded (symbol TOYOF).


Supertrucker,
I think you are referring to Mazda being partly owned by Ford... Not Toyota.

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gotta love those toys!!! I have a 99 Taco ext cab with the TRD package in a 4cyl.. I couldnt be happier with them.. I also have a 82 toy pickup 4x4 adn its still going strong little rusty put still runs great... When I moved from NC to PA I had a full bed packed and also had my 82 toy hooked to it.. Goin up hills was slow but on the flat I had no problems.. I wouldnt hesitate on towing that truck anywhere behind my Taco.. I have pulled alot of stuck trucks out of tank trails when I was down in ft. bragg and never had a problem getting them out.. The best time was when me and another guy were out playing on the tank trails and he all of sudden swamped and I mean swamped is toy.. After about 10 mins of him trying to get it unstuck himself we decied to hook my truck to him to pull him out.. Well we just about had it hooked up when these 2 guy's in a Chevy comes by and the driver goes there is NO WAY my 4cyl was goin to pull him out.. I just giggled and said we will see.. So the guy's in the Chevy goes around us and made it about 10 feet when they suddenly swamped his truck... So I said to them after i'm done pulling this one out I will come down there and get ya out.. We finished hooking up my buddies toy and to the Chevy's owner suprise I had little trouble getting him out.. As promised I went down and hooked up to the Chevy and got him out as well.. When he was unstuck I looked at him and his buddy and said How does it feel to be pulled out by a "little" 4 cyl.. His buddy looks at him and say's dude I wont say a word about this if you dont.. I had a good laugh that day... I have 130K on that truck and NEVER had any problems ecept for the normal ware and tare..

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Norm,

I don't know the answer to your question but I'd venture a guess that the tax dollars blown by the liberal politicians backed and funded by the UAW and their brethren FAR exceed the amount not collected from the Japanese workers' paychecks....

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