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DanAdair, I've read that too. I do the "pull down the forearm" thing myself. Still doesn't make for my ability!
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It does however love Federal's HE 180 grain NP load so I'm thinking I'll go to the Partition for home grown elk loads... Kimber recommends 165 grain and less bullets in the Montana due to the twist but my limited testing doesn't bear that out. I hadn't run any 180 in my Montana til' tonight... went out to the range and printed a .470" group with 180 Partitions over 45 gr's of RL15 at 2,670 fps... I'm delighted since I have 450 qty. 180 gr. Partitions on hand
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Well now Brad, if you use Partitions in that rifle, then you have ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of killing at Elk with it. You at least need a plastic tip on your bullet to kill Elk. But still, the 2670 FPS thing... That loses you even more points. That is a respectable group, but that'll never kill anything without another 1000 FPS!! Don't you ever read the comic books??? Sheez!! What next, you'll put a fixed 4 Loopy on it? I thought I needed my head examined when I thought that I could use a .338" 210 grain Partition leaving the muzzle at 2500 FPS on a Black Bear...
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Guess I'm outa the loop Comes from living in Montana no doubt
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2670 fps, yeepers.....I'd say that's pretty much 06 territory, and in such a nice light toteable rig as well.
Dats one heck of a good tube you've got running there!
Both my tree oh eight tubes would will do to 25 with a 180, they're accurate but speed demons they aint. Course I'm running dotz or BP so I don't really care.
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Dober, I double checked the dots on the 308 out to 550 yards last night (just one shot at 100, 250, 350, 450 and 550 yards. 100 yard zero: Here are the 450 (bottom dot) and 550 (top of post) yard shots. 450 is dead-on. 550 is 3 inches low:
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100 Yard 180 Nosler Partition group from last evening (I'm going to play with this bullet in the off-season for sure!):
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That HE load clocked about 2,725 to 2,740 in my Montana. It's pretty stout.
Funny that hunting elk with a .308 and Nosler Partitions is sort of old fashioned. Please don't tell the elk. I don't want them to laugh at me.
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That is great shooting Brad and excellent photography as well. Good for you.
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That HE load clocked about 2,725 to 2,740 in my Montana. It's pretty stout.
Funny that hunting elk with a .308 and Nosler Partitions is sort of old fashioned. Please don't tell the elk. I don't want them to laugh at me. That is stout... but not so far ahead of the same bullet handloaded. As Mark said, dfinitely 30-06 territory and I KNOW what a 180 Partition from a 30-06 does to elk! Had I not bought a box of 150 TTSX's a few weeks back and gone through the sight-in/load-development ritual I'd just use the 180 Partition, knowing now what it's capable of.
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That is great shooting Brad and excellent photography as well. Good for you. Thanks 99... I love the little 308 Kimber. Utterly eager to please and, so far, a totally honest rifle... zero doesn't wander, clean or dirty barrel, (even when dis-assembled and re-assembled) and has shot everything I've put through it very well, with most stuff going into 3/4" or less. I have an extra, unused 308 Montana barrel stashed away for it... looks like I'll be shooting a 308 Montana the rest of my life
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I have one as well Brad in .308. Its a rifle that stands apart. Your posts made me get it out of the safe and its here by me now.
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That HE load clocked about 2,725 to 2,740 in my Montana. It's pretty stout.
Funny that hunting elk with a .308 and Nosler Partitions is sort of old fashioned. Please don't tell the elk. I don't want them to laugh at me. That is stout... but not so far ahead of the same bullet handloaded. As Mark said, dfinitely 30-06 territory and I KNOW what a 180 Partition from a 30-06 does to elk! Had I not bought a box of 150 TTSX's a few weeks back and gone through the sight-in/load-development ritual I'd just use the 180 Partition, knowing now what it's capable of. Hey Brad just give them to me. Nice shootin by the way. When the heck are we going to get together and sling some??
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I'm getting to like mine real well. It likes 150ttsx's, and 150 nosler AB's over 48.0 varget. 2900 fps.
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My 22 inch M70 Fwt likes 47 grs of Varget with a 150 gr. TSX. About 2840 fps. WW cases, WLR's and 2.80 col. About .7 MOA. If I sight the above at +2.5 @ 100, then 41 grs. of Varget and a 200 gr. Nosler Partition is about 1.0 @ 100 yds. and -1 inch. 42 grs is dead zero and 2436 fps. About 1.2 plus. That's going to be my heavy cover load. E
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"VWD" (very well done) there Mac, it just shows what some try and dotz will do for one!
Amazing lil round that the lil 30 isn't it, perhaps I should wander south and pick up the twin to yours that's sitting there so lonely....<g>
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"VWD" (very well done) there Mac, it just shows what some try and dotz will do for one! Yupper! Thanks for turning me on to the dots Dober... a LRF and DOTS are a revelation. Stupid simple and can't believe I didn't start using them both til three years ago!
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Plus a scope with dotz in it actually fits a scabbard...<g>
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They take a lil tailoring, but once done, they're faster and more KISS than the alternative... Scabbard? I haven't been horsey hunting in eight years
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Thanks. I got my hands on a pile of 748 and a thousand 168 gr. Nosler match bullets for very good prices, but I haven't run 748 in Lapua. I'm looking to do a quick workup and mass produce a bunch of fun ammo. I shot through several Kegs of WW-748 with 168gr SMK's back when I shot a lot of Silhouette. Usually best accuracy is going to be with somewhere around 45grs + or - a grain or so. I liked it because 748 pours like water trough a powder measure and gave good accuracy out to 500 meters. The load I shot also had easy to remember come-ups of 3,6 and 9 Minutes from 200meters. Have fun, it's a good combination.....................DJ
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