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I am wanting a really nice sporter weight 223. I am debating on either buying a Sako 75 or such, Kimber, or build a 223 on a Rem action.
I'm wanting an accurate sporter that will be reasonably lightweight. If I build, I may go with a 223 Improved. Undecided there.
What would you guys suggest?
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The remington model 7 would be good too.
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I've always liked how the LV SF's felt, were me I'd build off a 700 and copy that.
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I've always liked how the LV SF's felt, were me I'd build off a 700 and copy that. +1 on that. My next project will be a custom left hand Rem 700 in 223 styled along the lines of a LVSF with a McMillan stock and Lilja fluted barrel. Building may cost more, but you get exactly what you want and top notch accuracy.
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Building gives exactly what you want...
and for the cost of a SAKO 75 or Kimber, you can build one heck of a nice rig on a Remington Action...
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I'm looking pretty hard at a Model 7 Predator in .223.
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I have customs in 222 and 223, but the new generation of factory built rifles are pretty danged good. The new high grade Savage rifles look pretty nice to me and I hear they really shoot!
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I would have said build, until Kimber started chambering the Montana in .223 AND screwed a 1-9" tube on. Were I to build, I true up a 700, and screw on a 1-8" Rem. mountian rifle contour, bedded into a Macmilan mt rifle edge. Could probably do teh Montana cheaper though.
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I'm having the same debate right now. I have an SPS 223. It has a 1 in 12 tube. I want a 1 in 8 or 9. Seems like if I rebarrel, and have to restock, the Montana may still come out cheaper. Unless there are barrels and stocks out there that I don't know about that are cheap and well built?
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Personally I'd grab a 700 SPS, cut it to 21" and bed it in a Ti take off.
If shooting tons then I'd AI it to reduce trimming, other than that I don't think it's worth it and not all AI'd 223's feed the bestest.
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In my own case with .223s I did both, bought and built... The Bought rifle is a Rem m7 Predator in .223, the "built" rifle was a gradual thing... started as a Rem. Heavy varmint, shot the barrel out and replaced it with a Hart 1 in 10",med. sporter weight,swapped the HS precision wide channel stock out for an HS precision Sporter stock, did the obligatory TJ and off we go... when I burn out the barrel on the M7, it'll get a Hart too, but the stock has been workin for me... Ingwe
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To me and my $, there are just too many great factory 223s on the market to build. BUT, if I already had a small bolt face M7 or 700, I would build since you already have the most expensive part.
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I would have said build, until Kimber started chambering the Montana in .223 AND screwed a 1-9" tube on. Were I to build, I true up a 700, and screw on a 1-8" Rem. mountian rifle contour, bedded into a Macmilan mt rifle edge. Could probably do teh Montana cheaper though. My thoughts as well, although you could do worse than Dober's recipe. I do like playing around with the 75 A-Max, which precludes the SPS. But for the lighter bullets like the 50 V-Max the SPS would be very nice.
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I'd just get a Montana chambered in 223 if it were me.
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I'd either do the Ti/SPS route or the Montana. I'd not take the time and money to build something that I could do by just buying a Montana.
But, dats just me.
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I have to say that I like my CZ-527 for a lightweight .223. It shoots half-inch groups with my handloads, weighs as little as a .22 rimfire, etc. The only thing I don't like about it is the magazine sticking out so far beneath it. FOr prairie dogs, I use a heavier-barreled rifle. For walking around or even for calling predators, the CZ is tops in my book.
I have a Kimber varmint model in .22-250 and a heavy-barreled Savage 110 in .223 that do duty for sitting in one place and shooting a lot.
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If you can live with long throats the Rem factory will work for you. If it won't a custom should work. Last year I picked up a Rem ADL .223. Yep long throat but the price was right. A month ago I picked up a new Krieger barrel on the net very reasonable. Now to find a gunsmith rather than a metal butcher who has a reamer with a short throat. When you talk with most of them they don't even know the throats on their reamer or a just trying to BS into another long throat.
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Well after reading all your post, I ended up buying a semi custom Rem 700 off the classified here.
Now to get ready for some experimenting.
Thanks for all the insight.
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