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"Why ask a cartridge to do something it wasn't designed to do, when you have another cartridge which will do a better job?"


If you "design" it right, its plenty capable.

True. Most of the rounds we use are versatile, especially with the bullets we have now.
The Swift is over on the end of the spectrum. It's a specialty cartridge. I love it, have had one for 40+ years, but it has limitations which take a lot of work to overcome. These guys have found a way to make it work.
Bill

so, what was the 5.56 Nato designed for? let's see, 150-250# thin skinned animals.

but the modern bullets make the diff, like you say

BMD,

I'm not forced to guess,like you are. Hell,you don't even know how your brainfart is throated and don't think that ain't hilarious.

Keep dreamin'..................

Norma is soft.

R/P rules.................

How much deader than dead,can you kill something? I shoot a little of everything(understatement). Good bullets,in good places,do great things and the hilarious part is,all you Do-nothin's are yacking about things you've yet to see or do,though you are steadfast in your copious stupidity.

6mm's? I love 'em and you'll have to try hard to find one twisted slower than 9" currently. 25's? I love 'em and you'll have to try hard to find one twisted slower than 10". 7mm's? I love 'em you'll have to try hard to find one twisted slower than 9".

A 14" Swift is a glaring brainfart of grand magnitude,the depths of which preclude it from using ANY of the bullets in it's bore size,which allow it to shine(and brightly).

I can roll you a buncha kill footage sequences and you'd not be able to discern the .224's from the .243's or the 7mm's or the 30's.

Now define "a long shot in wind" and cite what you are currently gunning in either 6mm or 257...though you are blowing smoke at your azz,when you muse familiarity there......................

Don,

The ONLY stunt here,is you talking out your azz,under the illusion that you've a clue of what you are talking about.

You do not and I reckon that's why you wear a helmet..............

For me, a long shot in the wind is 400+ at a woodchuck in rolling Va farmland in the summer. I have ZERO experience with 6mm and 25 cal. I go from .22 to .30 in most everything I do. I do carry a 6.5 x 55 when it rains though.
In the 50's the .22s died along with the 25s because of the 6mm.
Do you think Warren Page was a know nothing...It was his idea.
I got a swift because it was cheap, and did what I wanted to do, which was pop woodchucks. Not a bad way to spend the day.
Guys were trading in .22s for 6mm just like the short magnum craze now.

You appear to hunt more than I. You certainly spend more time at the keyboard than I, but I'm retired and can spend more time here than when I had responsibilities.
Bill

Just a thought, 300 gr .30 cal.? Why not?
Bill

I KNOW you have zero experience with the fast twisted .22's,let alone the 6mm's or 25's,which is why I said that very thing.

What is your current Death Ray for those 400yd+ windy pokes?

Do I think Page or anyone else,back in the day when a 14" Swift made perfect sense,due to the length of the bullets of their time...could see the marked developments in projectile technology,that would turn everything they knew on it's ear?

Nope....................

300gr 30's? Why not? Because there are none.

For starters..................

Make your own.
Bill

I'm rather contented with the .625BC 162A-Max in .284"...though I do slum a herd of rather spectacular 30's...................

You think you're smarter than Warren Page? I'm sure he considered the merits of what you champion, and decided it didn't make sense. Those heavy bullets were home made long before you could buy them in a store.
Bill

You dream some spectacular dreams. Rest assured that Warren wasn't cranking J4 jacketed secant ogive VLD's in .224,wearing a polymer tip to further enhance BC's.

Keep yacking,you are a funny bastard.................

This has been an interesting thread.

Here in Montana, if one got every tag out there you probably would not be able to harvest more than about 6 animals in any given species. In the eastern part of the state with special tags you might be able to rack up another dozen animals at best. That's it for big game animals and than one puts away the big cannon for another year. Not much shooting experience.

With a .224 set up the way PWC says one can practice all spring, summer and early fall on live targets. Plenty of shooting experience and dead eye in the fall on big game. Plus you still have a shoulder left at the end of hunting season. Try that with a big cannon!

You would be amazed at the number of hunters I hear say they needed 5 or 6 shots to kill big game animal with big booming cannon. They probably could have kill big game animal with the first shot if they shot more often.

Finally, I worked on a political campaign with a retired damage control hunter for the Feds who hunted everything in the lower 48 states with a .220 Swift including bears. He said the bears DRT. Of course, he was a professional hunter who shot a lot.

Watching trace/impact through the glass,do not hurt the learning curve.

Folks who think killing is hard,simply ain't killed much...............

Is this where it gets purty quiet,on your end?

Thought so................

Good point. In the east we are spoiled. Did your damage control hunter use a standard Swift? The Rangers here use .223 for this task. Mr Cracker holds the standard Swift in low regard, probably why it wasn't very popular.
When you say boomer, you may misunderstand; I mean 30-06.
The magnums are not fun to shoot for sure. If you used an inferior round like the standard Swift, could you learn more?
Maybe even a .223?
Bill

Just thinking... You really do remind me of my brother in law. Thats not good.
Bill