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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Ballistic Tip. Bet you never need a blood trail as the deer will be DRT, yes it will leave 2 holes just in case. If you worry about the Ballistic Tip maybe try the Sierra 125. It works from the '06 at full speed, 2 holes.


Same can be said for antelope, they just fold. This is what I load for my son in his .308 as well NAB for tougher stuff.


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Well I know my Remington model 7 in .308 does not like federal premium ballistic tip or BTSP with horrendous grouping. But with 150 core lock it did well but the tightest group was from monarch 150gr soft point ammo clover leafing it may be dirty have more muzzle blast but accurate just don't want to try performance on a deer afraid of it exploding or just not expanding. The 125 SST looks like a flat base.

I mainly want to work this load for a Ruger Hawkeye Compact for a small hunter so they do not develop bad habits but have faith in ammo as well. If works well I would shot as well in my model 7 or BLR. I'm done with Remington corelockt due to FTF, poor QC, and core separation and bullet just blowing up on a deer shoulder.

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Originally Posted by bobnob17
The 130g Hornady is surprisingly tough. For pigs and deer up to 150 kilograms or so I can recommend them.

Handloaded to 3100fps in the 308 Win has been my m.o.

They're not the Interlock design but they behave much the same.

Agree.

Good entrance and exit bleeding, messed up chest. This was the '06, not .308, but not that much difference.

This group (closer to 100 meters than yards) with Ralph Council 130's. Ralph says they're good on WT's; the 130's I've used are the 130 gr. Horn SP's.

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Originally Posted by FishinHank
I ordered some 125BT's to load up for my 300saum for deer duty. SPS had seconds in stock.


I got a bunch as well from there and plan to try them this year on deer with my 300 blk. From what I've read the 125 BT seems like a tough little bullet.

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For WT's etc., if a bullet (125/130 gr.) will blow thru a chest shot deer, why would one need heavier bullets for that application. WT's aren't that tough. I'd want heavier bullets for bigger game.

And they'll travel at 3K fps. B.C.'s may not be the best for real LR shooting, but WT's where I hunt are mostly shot at less than 200 yds.

If I'm gonna be shooting at 400-500 yds, I have some very interesting options in the safe.

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I made a mistake I guess I got some 130 grain Speer hot core which have a slight flat point instead of getting the sierra . Unfortunately I can't find the COL for using that bullet in 308 if any one does please share. I have a lee book but with that bullet weight it would be seating the bullet before the canulure.. Does anyone know which bullet tougher Sierra Pro hunter or Speer hot core? The SST's 125 have flat base with 42.5 grains of H4895 I tested it on a crude medium of water jugs it went through two at 50yds and left a dimple at back of third and retained weight of 61.1 grains. I just loaded 10 up using 38.5 grains of H4895 and will see how accurate they are and do same test. I must say the first two jugs was vaporized but I would have preferred confirmed expansion and 3 gallon jugs of penetration. My searched for FOS would be 2600ish-2700 at the muzzle

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I have shot the Speer 130-grain bullet a fair amount in the .307. For quite a long time this was the most accurate bullet in my rifle. I have shot quite a number of sub one-inch groups with this bullet from the bench - when I did my part. I cannot do it on command but I have done it a number of times.
In my rifle using Winchester brass, WLR primers, and a COL of 2.500" these loads have worked for me.
44.5 gr. of IMR 4064 2,628 fps. This is an accurate load.
45.0 gr. of Hodgdon 4895 2,697 fps. Another very accurate load
33.0 gr. Alliant Reloader 7 2,226 fps.


Here is some data that I found doing a search on line. I am pretty sure this is the same bullet that you are talking about. Link to page at bottom. miles

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I used the Speer 130grHP in my Colt AR15, 7.62x39. Easy one inch groups. Barnes 110gr was also very accurate.

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Ok I’m having issues with the 130 grain Speer JFP can’t find any particular data for it in .308 only .307 Win.. I’m stuck on the COL.

Would it be wrong I put the crimp at the canulure I only put .308” of the bullet seated but I am short on the COL I am a 2.569” is that dangerous to shoot I’m going to pull the bullets in the am if I don’t hear any guidance. But if they flat point bullet had a tip it would be over the Lee published COL but the min in the book is 2.610”.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciate it I’m thinking about just giving up on reloading now for the 308

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Why are you crimping?

And you don't have to put one full caliber of the bullet shank in the neck. Look at the 300 Savage and the 300 Win Mag. They get by just fine.


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Originally Posted by Meaux308
Ok I’m having issues with the 130 grain Speer JFP can’t find any particular data for it in .308 only .307 Win.. I’m stuck on the COL.

Would it be wrong I put the crimp at the canulure I only put .308” of the bullet seated but I am short on the COL I am a 2.569” is that dangerous to shoot I’m going to pull the bullets in the am if I don’t hear any guidance. But if they flat point bullet had a tip it would be over the Lee published COL but the min in the book is 2.610”.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciate it I’m thinking about just giving up on reloading now for the 308



The 307 & 308 are the same round, the 307 just has a rim.

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The 130 Speer HCFN will work swell in the 308 at reduced speeds. I base that on how many good reports I've read of those who used it in their 30-30s and 30-30 Ackley Improveds. I got great accuracy with it in a M336 30-30 AI myself, but killed no game with it. I've shot a lot of 125BT and loaded them for a friend for his 30-06. Keep your speeds under 3K and it should do very well in the .308.

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I asked this regarding the 125 grain Hornady GMX on a thread earlier this week. I had heard such good things about the Barnes 130. Figured the 125 GMX would do well.
I have a very accurate load worked up. Going to chronograph them within the next few days. Very accurate. If I can get decent velocity out of it, will try them on deer and hogs.


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Gladesman- That should be a fine bullet...shoot both deer and hogs through the shoulders/ or get some bone until you determine you are pushing them fast enough. I have shot a lot of game with Barnes, from .22 to .375 and they all loved speed so I'm thinking the GMX will too! have a ball man (and some boudain!)

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Originally Posted by Jim_Knight
Gladesman- That should be a fine bullet...shoot both deer and hogs through the shoulders/ or get some bone until you determine you are pushing them fast enough. I have shot a lot of game with Barnes, from .22 to .375 and they all loved speed so I'm thinking the GMX will too! have a ball man (and some boudain!)


Thanks, Jim. Going to the camp Monday. I hoped to load up enough to chronograph and try at some distance. I am shooting the 125s out of my Ruger Scout Rifle with the 18.7' barrel. 50 yard 3 shot groups were triangular shaped holes. My range at the house is limited to 50 yards. I can go to 300 plus at the camp range. However, most shots at game at the camp are 100 yards or less.

Tough to beat good Boudin. Many years ago when I was rough-necking in the south Louisiana oil patch I fell in love with that stuff. Back then it was hard to get above Alexandria. Now it is pretty much all over the state.


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