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Men,
Can anyone tell me if my twist test is accurate on a 22-250 in a Rem 700 Classic. 1 in 14? I checked it several times and it is either a 13 or a 14. Also, would like to know what years it was built and if there is any info that tells by serial # when the rifle was built.
Was messing with it this evening and am a little concerned about the throat depth. Just on the lands the cartridge OAL measured with my Stoney Point Comparitor is 3.120" with a 55 grain Sierra. Only about .140" in the neck touching the lands.
The barrel "felt" real good when I cleaned it thoroughly. No rough feel in the throat with either a brush or a patch and it wasn't coppered up bad at all. Gun looks like new and the stock is a real nice piece of wood. Not a mark on it.
Have not shot it yet but it is reported to shoot real good. I am going to ring it out and hopefully work on some Coyotes after Deer season. Any info, advice, help would be appreciated.
Also picked up a 6MM Remington in a 700 Classic from the same trader. Super nice gun. Both guns are 95% to look at them. Hope they shoot as good as they look.
Looking forward to some input. Thanks!!

Dave

1 in 14 twist is right...

Don't remember what year..

It'll shoot.....


Ingwe

RaceTire: The Remington Classic model was produced in caliber 22-250 Remington from 1979 through 1985 - ONLY.
I owned one of these nifty Rifles and it shot well.
Oohhh... how I wish I had that ONE back!
Another one I owned and made only a pittance of profit on was the Remington Classic from the year 1992! That year they made the Classic in 220 Swift - ONLY!
I can not even guess what your twist rate is in that 22-250 Classic but ALL of them I have seen shoot, shot very well - I don't know why?
If you are interested in selling your "minty" Remington 700 Classic in caliber 22-250 Remington let me know.
The 6mm Remington Classic was only made from 1978 to 1983 by the way.
Best of luck with your Classic's!
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VarmintGuy

RaceTire: I am going to attempt to link you to a site that will give you the month and year of manufacture of those Remingtons (be patient!):

http://www.remingtonsociety.com/rsa/questions/barrelcodes

Hope this helps.
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VarmintGuy

VGuy,
Thanks for all the info and the link. I loaded 10 rounds this evening and soon will see how she does. Both of the Classics have real slick actions and triggers are real good too. Someone has worked on the trigger on the 6MM as it feels like it is about 2# and real crisp. Both rifles had Leupold bases and rings on them and this evening I installed a set of QD bases and put a 6 x 18 x 40 VXII that is my load development scope on the 250.

INGWE,
Thanks for the info on the twist. She ought to shoot the 52 grain Bergers pretty well. When I get them out I will post results.
I had been after the 6MM for awhile and the guy that had it finally let it go. The gun trader that traded for it brought it and the 22-250 to deer camp. He knew I would take the 6MM and when he rolled the guncase over and opened up the side with the 250 in it and I saw how nice it was I couldn't resist. Deer camp was expensive this year.

Dave

VGuy,
22-250 October of 1983 6MM November of 1979. Both guns look like they just came out of the box with the exception of the fading on the butt pad on the 250. No scratches, no dings in either stock. Now that I know they are as old as they are these two gals are even more impressive. Thanks again for the link.
BTW the old trader and I get along real well and he is looking for a Classic in 25-06. In case he finds one that is 95% what would you say is a fair price.

Dave

I had one, wish I still had it. Also really wish I would of picked up a Swift but like a dummy didn't...Was in the whole gotta be a glass stock phase.

Mine shot lights out, I used the 63 Sierra for a fair bit of big game and yotes.

Dober

The value of a 700 Classic depends on caliber, if it is NIB, has correct box, papers etc etc. Suggest anyone planning to dabble in them get a copy of The 700 Book.

Good rifles but no better than a new CDL unless you hanker after the limited edition calibers. Many that should have had longer barrels (like the 300 H&H) came with (yuk) 24"s. But at least you could get a 3.6" action w/o spending a fortune.
One of mine became a 244 H&H (new long barrel), the other a 400 H&H, rebored.

Not a thing wrong with a 24" on a H&H, spose the old 26" is what you'd prefer. Speed wise you'll give up a total of about 53 fps which is no biggie.

Dober

Oldman,
Calibers as you mentioned is what excited me about the two I just bought. Every evening this week has been spent detailing them and mounting glass on them. Both have Leupy QD bases and rings. 6 x 18 x 40 VXII on the 250 and a 3.5 x 10 x 50 w/Leup Dot on the 6. Brewed up some stuff for both to try. Cannot wait.
Where is the best place to buy the 700 book??

Dober,
Got any details on that 63 grain Sierra load??
Thanks,
Dave

Try Sara Loos (B&S Books in NY) 585-544-1027.
It may be out of print now but Sara may be able to find you one.

On the 300 H&H, actually I'd prefer a Model 70 bull gun with a 28" but try and find one. My 721 has a 26 and can blow off the 300 WSMs with the silly 22" barrels. My horse doesn't complain about a few extra ounces for more velocity and far less muzzle blast.

RaceTire-the 63 has been one super lil slug for me. I've used mainly R15 and Varget with it. Over the years Varget has been the most accurate although I've had good accuracy with R15.

First off I'd try Varg and see what it gets it. If your gun is somewhat intelligent I'd bet it'll shoot Varg/63 combo incredibly well.

Dober

The Classic in .221 Fireball also has a 1-14 twist. It still works even with 55-grain plastic tips. No worries in the .22-250 with anything up to around 60 grains.

Those 22-250 Classics are sweet rifles. My brother has had one since 1980, it is his best and favorite rifle.

I just went hunting with a local rancher last month who used one to bump off a decent buck.

RaceTire: It is up to you now to keep those "valuable" Rifles in as good condition as is possible!
Enjoy them and I hope they both shoot well for you!
And this on the Classic 25/06!
I was helping my friend Mark from Maple Valley, Washington look for a Remington 700 in 25/06 on the used market - he wanted a Classic or a BDL 25/06.
I looked HARD for 3 years and never found one!
Folks that own these Remington 25/06's LIKE THEM and KEEP THEM!
Best of luck finding one!
I will do a search for a a current price on the 700 25/06's but I am sure the Classic 700 would have a higher price than a 700 BDL (etc)!
Again best of luck in your search.
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VarmintGuy

RaceTire: I feel the excitement about your two new Rifles as well - I have a bunch of Leupold 6x18's on various Varmint Rifles I own and have several 3.5x10's (although NONE are the 50mm type to date) - good guns do deserve good glass and you are doing them up right.
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VarmintGuy

Oldman1942: Just how on earth do you sight your 300 H&H Rifle in - the scope does not have any windage or elevation knobs???
LOL - I have that same scope on a new NEF break open single shot in 17 MachII that I am waiting for calm air so I can shim away on the rings to adjust bullet impact point for it.
Great looking 721 you have there!
My friend Dan from Enumclaw, Washington has 4 (four) of those 721's in 300 H&H Magnum (one for him, one for his son and two for his grand-sons!)
He loves those things and buys and trades them as often as possible!
They shoot pretty well in fact.
By the way I have a minty Winchester Model 70 pre-war "Bull Gun" in 300 Magnum (300 H&H Magnum)!
Yeah, it was, kind of hard to come by.
I also have a new in the crate unfired 300 H&H Magnum pre-64 Winchester Model 70 "Bull Gun" that was manufactured in early 1961 (Special Order).
Enjoy your 300 H&H!
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VarmintGuy

Men,
Slipped out late Sunday afternoon. Pretty cold and did not make it out until about 4:00PM. 52g Berger Moly w/35.2 gr of BLC-2. Got 6 rounds through the 250. Very promising!!
Worked with the 6MM a little too. Had scope mount issues with the QD Rings and bases. Worked that out last night. It looks like it will be a shooter too.
Dober I am going to give those 63's a try. I have to get a box. Have a couple of boxes of 65's I use in my sons .223. Probably a little heavy for a 14 twist but worth a try.
These things are sweet and have provided some quality time messing with them the past week or so. BTW I thought and reported they were both 22" barrelled but the 250 is a 24"
Hope to get out this weekend again after church and dinner at Granny's . Will keep all informed with pics maybe.

Dave

My particular 22-250 has a 1-14 twist, and stabilizes 55 grain bullets well. But, I start having accuracy problems with some 60 grainers.

Best loads for mine are:

55 grain Sierra HPBT
32.6 grains of Benchmark
Fed 210M
1/4", 3 shot groups at 100 yds

Same bullet
35.5 grains of Varget
Same primers
3/8", 3 shot groups at 100 yds

Bullets .010 off lands
Used a 36x scope for testing.

Don,
Thanks for sharing your loads. That will just give me something else to do (fun not work) which is a good thing!! The throat is a little deep in this rifle as the 52 grain Berger is only in the neck .160" @ .025" off the lands. I am going to hunt Coyotes and Bobcats with this rig so neck squeeze and bearing are a little bit of an issue. I think there is a box of 60 gr NBT's on the shelf that I may give a go as well as giving Dober's 63 gr Sierra recommendation a try. Load development and messing with the rifles sure beats sitting here with my graphics guy building the next edition of my catalog. Almost done!!

Dave