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Speer 124gr to be exact.

Out of a 4" nominal barrel that looks more like 3 7/8" to me.

Averaged out to 1224 FPS.

For comparison, Win WB 115 FMJ ran 1108, and PMP 115 FMJ ran 1083.

So it moves along pretty good.

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Thanks for the info.
That is a good bullet/round. I use that load in my 9.
Go to YouTube and look that up. Check out the testing, penetration and expansion.


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I have a small cache of that same loading myself for my CZ75 PCR with 3.9" barrel. Thanks.


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But would it have expanded if the first jug was wearing heavy denim or a cloth coat?

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I fired two of that same cartridge out of a G19 into the vitals of a deer. The recovered bullets look exactly like the one in this video.

Highly recommend this cartridge.

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Originally Posted by Tennessee
I fired two of that same cartridge out of a G19 into the vitals of a deer. The recovered bullets look exactly like the one in this video.

Highly recommend this cartridge.
Did you first place a heavy cloth jacket on the deer?

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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I fired two of that same cartridge out of a G19 into the vitals of a deer. The recovered bullets look exactly like the one in this video.

Highly recommend this cartridge.
Did you first place a heavy cloth jacket on the deer?


Hey, you know very well it doesn't get cold enough in Tennessee for the deer to wear coats.

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Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Tennessee
I fired two of that same cartridge out of a G19 into the vitals of a deer. The recovered bullets look exactly like the one in this video.

Highly recommend this cartridge.
Did you first place a heavy cloth jacket on the deer?


Hey, you know very well it doesn't get cold enough in Tennessee for the deer to wear coats.


It's been colder than usual down here in Austin, but I still refuse to give up my Hawaiian shirt and shorts.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
But would it have expanded if the first jug was wearing heavy denim or a cloth coat?


Here is another test using Corbon 9mm DPX 115 gr jhp going through 4 layers of denim. Velocity is only 1250 fps, goes through 2/3 jugs, but hollow point expands and does not clog.





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Impressive.

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Speer Gold Dot Plus P 124 GR is the bullet i carry in my Kahr P9


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I understand that the loading data for those bullets is quite different than that for the conventional bullets. If you buy thge bullets from Barnes, use data for those bullets, not somebody else's. E

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Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Tennessee
I fired two of that same cartridge out of a G19 into the vitals of a deer. The recovered bullets look exactly like the one in this video.

Highly recommend this cartridge.
Did you first place a heavy cloth jacket on the deer?


Hey, you know very well it doesn't get cold enough in Tennessee for the deer to wear coats.


Very funny. I shot this deer in Texas. It would have been interesting to add some clothing, but I was not running a test just trying to kill a deer.

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Many frown at 9mm stopping power and ignore the fact that a 124 gr. .355" bullet at 1,250 - 1,300 fps is stepping hard on the heels of the .357 Magnum 125 gr. at 1,400 fps. I pack the +P 9mm 124 gr. Gold Dot in my Kahr K9 when it goes out and about with me and don't feel too much at risk with the cartridge and load.


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Originally Posted by MOGC
Many frown at 9mm stopping power and ignore the fact that a 124 gr. .355" bullet at 1,250 - 1,300 fps is stepping hard on the heels of the .357 Magnum 125 gr. at 1,400 fps.
Very true. Cor-Bon loads theirs the closest to 125 grain .357 Mag levels. The gun I'm carrying right now is loaded with them. Box says velocity is 1,250. In 115 grain, it's 1,350.

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Black Hills also has some good quality +P 124 gr. Gold Dot loads.


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That GD load is what I carry in my 9mm

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I have seen the 9mm perfrom on humans with the Border Patrol plus P plus loads issued to us and its pretty darn impressive..I carried a 14 shot Browning HP so loaded while operating in Mexico as a DEA agent, as my .45 ACP was verbotten by the Gov. at the time as it was a Mex. gov. issure weapon..

I never went back to the .45 after packing the Hi-Power for those years. I retired from the service about 20 years ago. I still have the HP, gave the 45 to my son.

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Oh, the much smaller 9mm rd. can be loaded to within a 100 fps. of the .357 ? How does that happen ? Both of them are suppose to be loaded to 35,000 psi. The 9mm case is a much smaller case. E

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I suspect the barrel/ cylinder gap contributes a lot to the velocity loss. After personally chronographing handloads and some factory loads thru my 38 & 357 snubbies, and then comparing the numbers with my 9mm Kahr: the 38's were very anemic (125 grains at 850 fps), the 357 did turn up a little better numbers than my 9mm (125 grains at 1250 fps vs. 115 grains at 1050 with non+P's); but the difference in muzzle blast and felt recoil was incredible!

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