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#3810748 - 02/18/10 375 ruger
coyotewallace Offline
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Anyone loading for this or have helpful info. to offer?

looking to use 270g TSX out of the Ruger Alaskan

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#3810789 - 02/18/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: coyotewallace]
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Buy the Barnes loading book. 270 TSX is an accurate killer.

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#3810809 - 02/18/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: oldman1942]
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sounds good..also looking for any personal use with this cartridge,bullet(or bullet prefrence). pictures,stories,reloading info.,etc....if anyone wants to post or comment. thx

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#3810863 - 02/18/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: coyotewallace]
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http://www.realguns.com/archives/144.htm

That is Part 2 of H&H Vs Ruger and has all the load data Joe from Real Guns used. Get to Part 1 at the bottom of the article

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#3810868 - 02/18/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: Mike378]
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Thx Mike..yea I read the stuff I pulled up on the net. I'm kinding looking more for insight from the members here


Edited by coyotewallace (02/19/10)

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#3811731 - 02/19/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: coyotewallace]
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Originally Posted By: coyotewallace
Anyone loading for this or have helpful info. to offer?

looking to use 270g TSX out of the Ruger Alaskan
........Yep!!...Here is some load data that I have duplicated and used in my own 375 Ruger Alaskan.

Go to......."gunblast.com",,,,,,then click on,,,,"archives",,,,and then speed scroll down to the date of,,,,,2/6/07.

There you`ll find a Jeff Quinn article about the 375 Ruger African containing about 20 reloads using bullets from 235 grs on up to the 300 grainers. Deduct maybe 60-70 fps for the shorter Alaskan barrel.

There are several 270 gr TSX loadings there.

Hint!!.....I use two powders; H4350 and RL15 exclusively in my Alaskan. Veeeedy accurate!!!

A good read too!! As most of what he writes should also apply to the Alaskan too.
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#3811753 - 02/19/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: coyotewallace]
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Originally Posted By: coyotewallace
sounds good..also looking for any personal use with this cartridge,bullet(or bullet prefrence). pictures,stories,reloading info.,etc....if anyone wants to post or comment. thx
.........Any hunting stories, pics, killing performance, or whatever you`ve seen or read about the 375 H&H, would also apply equally to the 375 Ruger.
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#3811775 - 02/19/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: bigsqueeze]
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thank you bigsqueeze,
good stuff there.

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#3817627 - 02/20/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: coyotewallace]
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I've used the Alaskan version in AK several times to take 2 black and 1 brown bear at ranges from 40-330 yards. The bullet was the 300 grain TSX driven by H4350 to about 2550+. Less than MOA accuracy out to 300 yds on paper. RL-15 also works well as do the 270 grain TSX and the factory loads. Haven't tried factory loads on game, but as far as accuracy and advertised MV they work well. Have seen a small brown killed with the 300 grain factory round nose - did the job. Great cartridge and rifle. My main modification was to replace the Hogue with a Borden Rimrock, a matter of taste.

I have also used the African version in 375 Ruger (also less than MOA at same range, same loads), but that one is now re-bored to 404 Ruger. Used it in Africa on Cape buffalo and some PG. Would recommend either version depending on your intended use, but would caution that the wood stock (African) should be appropriately bedded (preferably fiberglass) by someone experienced with Rugers and the action screws torqued to specs.
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#3819345 - 02/21/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: Mike378]
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Originally Posted By: Mike378
http://www.realguns.com/archives/144.htm

That is Part 2 of H&H Vs Ruger and has all the load data Joe from Real Guns used. Get to Part 1 at the bottom of the article


Mike that was a good read...thanks for posting.
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#3819485 - 02/21/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: BobinNH]
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great read

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#3819976 - 02/21/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: coyotewallace]
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I have been drooling over a Ruger #1 Hawkeye in .375 Ruger for a year now. The rifle is still in the rack at opur local Gander Mountain.
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#3820365 - 02/21/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: daddywpb]
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I see no point in comparing a 375 Ruger to a 375 H&H..They are balistic twins for all practical purposes..

I would take a long hard look at a 375 Ruger if I was buying my first .375, but I am not going to rush out and sell one of my H&HS just to own a Ruger..Mostly because of the amount of ammo I have loaded for the H&H, the brass on hand, the dies, and the testing and tweeking I have done on my H&Hs...

I see no advantage in one over the other, and those that do are nitpicking and have no clue on what is required of either for their intended use..If the short action is a plus then one cannot chew gum and walk at the same time..that 1/8 inch of travel should not mean anything to a rifleman..The non belted case is only in the mind of someone who has read too many gun articles, it means zilch in real life situations, the tapered case of the H&H is a plus in that it won't stick with an over load on ejection but doesn't have much to do with feeding as some proclaim. Case shape doesn't mean much on feeding, tweeking does..

All in all its just a matter of individual choice as both are fine cartridges. I have built some nice custom Mausers in both calibers and the 416 Ruger and 416 Rem also. They all work in every respect.
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#3820870 - 02/21/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: atkinsonhunting]
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I should get my 375 Ruger rebarrel back from the smith next week. I will have a 24" #5 contour 3 groove PacNor on a Winchester post 64 action.

My question is where to start with 2 bullets; 260 Accubond and 270 gr TSX. I have some RL15 and 2# of RL17 along with some IMR4350.

Has anyone used RL17 with either of these bullets in either the 375 H & H or the 375 Ruger? I am having good luck with RL17 (can get plenty more, know where there are several bottles on the shelf at a local shop) and 30-06 and it would seem to be a perfect powder for the 375's, any comments?
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#3821180 - 02/21/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: woods]
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woods I think R17 will work well in both but have not had a chance to try it.Please let us know what you find!
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#3822437 - 02/22/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: BobinNH]
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OK, since my Nosler #5 lists 73 gr RL15 as the max load with the 260/270 gr bullets and the article above lists 75 gr RL15 as the load tested with 260 gr bullets, I am going to start loading RL17 at 74 gr with the 260 gr bullets and start watching velocity and for pressure signs.

Safe? Not below minimum or above maximum?
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#3835646 - 02/25/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: coyotewallace]
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Woods,

I have been figuring the same as you, trying to split between known loads with the 270 TSX with other powders, to come up with a rel 17 load for that bullet in my .375 Ruger.

To be safe, if you want to wait a few days, I have posed the question to the manufacturer of Rel 17. I will post their reply here when I get it.

Manny

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#3836519 - 02/26/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: mannyspd1]
woods Offline
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Thanks manny but I am going to shoot Sunday and need to start somewhere. I am actually more concerned with starting too low than too high.

I will have the chronograph set up and keep it simple with 3 shots at each level. I will also be breaking the rifle in so velocity is the main concern. If there are any signs of pressure or if velocity is close to 2800 fps then I will stop and pull the bullets. I have a collet puller and that is easy to do and I can reuse the bullets, powder and cases.

Bet the manufacturer will hem and haw or evade the question and not give you any definitive answer.

Anyway

3 @ 74
3 @ 74.5
3 @ 75
3 @ 75.5
3 @ 76
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#3836704 - 02/26/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: coyotewallace]
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Woods,

Let us know how it goes. Mine has a 20" so I will be a bit slower ...

Manny

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#3837035 - 02/26/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: mannyspd1]
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Hopefully you have better luck with the 375 ruger than I did. I couldn't get h&h velocity out of my 23" 375 ruger barrel without the bolt sticking(that was with any bullet). Other's seem to be getting good velocity though in the 375 ruger.
The 270 TSX has been the most accurate bullet I've shot out of any 375. My top accuracy came with RL15 powder near max and seated to the bottom edge of the first crimp groove. That combination in the 375 h&h and ruger(20" & 23" barrel) both gave me 1/2" groups at 100 yards when my trigger pull was right on. I haven't used the bullet on anything but deer, but is did expand in deer and left about a 50 cent piece exit on the deer without hitting any bone.

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#3837051 - 02/26/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: mannyspd1]
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woods, what is the purpose of a three-groove barrel vs. an arrangement with more grooves?

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#3837104 - 02/26/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: Texas]
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I may be wrong, but I think a 3 groove barrel creates less friction allowing higher velocities?

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#3837265 - 02/26/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: Gohip2000]
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Normally the lands are wider on 3-groove bores so the difference isn't as much as one might think.

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#3837835 - 02/26/10 Re: 375 ruger [Re: RyanScott]
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When I was deciding on which barrel to order from Pac-Nor, I did a search (that was about a year ago) and the general opinion was that the 3 grooves were supposed to be a little faster like gohip said. Also supposed to last a little longer. I couldn't find any negatives at that time so thought I would try one out.

Hearing a lot of good about 5R barrels now but those weren't being talked about back then.
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