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Resonable???
Unless you are going to hobble them, and wait till the ideal shot presents itself, and foregoing all non-perfect angles, and passing up on some nice bulls, the speed of light 80 grain gopher bullet is not an elk load I would select. I've carried out too many elk that made it into the deep, dark, steep north slopes when my partners couldn't control the fever.
No, I only hunt with those guys once. I'm just not a friggin pack mule.
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If he's gonna shoot an elk with an 80g TSX out of a 257 Roy, I would shoot an elk with a 62g GS Custom out of a 240 Roy. SDs are similar (0.173 for TSX, 0.150 for GSC), 62g more velocity, I prefer the GS Custom construction. I can vouch for GSC bullets, I shot a 40g(another gopher bullet) through the shoulder of a whitetail buck at 30 yards at 3800 fps (SD 0.114). Just saying.... Hole through the vitals is a hole through the vitals - not rocket science. Not saying either is ideal- but how do you define ideal? 130g GS Custom (SD 0.196) from a 300WM isnt ideal either, but I guess it worked alright here. (Sorry didnt find any 125NBT references, I thought this was close enough). http://www.gsgroup.co.za/allen.html
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30/378 with 125 NBT at 3835fps (Nosler max) is 5.9 inches down at 300 yards from a 100 yard zero.
240 Weatherby Mag with 62g GS Customs HV bullets at 4100 fps is 4.6 inches down at 300 yards with 100 yard zero.
Appreciate the numbers KY. A bunch of what has been mentioned is just generalities. Those options you mentioned are stretched string tight. Let's see some more drop numbers from your favorite loads that you consider to be exceptionally flat shooting folks. Reference them from a 100 yard zero so were all on the same sheet of music. John
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I would still use the good old .270 Win.
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My vote goes to the 264 magnum.
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Addressing the original post, a .257 Weatherby with a 80gr TTSX launched at 3850 drops 6.1" at 300 yards from a 100 yard zero. The 100gr TTSX launched at 3600 drops 6.8". If someone could show me a cartridge reasonable for everything up to Elk that shoots flatter than that inside 300, I'd be very interested...
John my vote for elk 6.5x300weatherby 140sst @3500 2.2 down @ 300 with 100yd zero..
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Addressing the original post, a .257 Weatherby with a 80gr TTSX launched at 3850 drops 6.1" at 300 yards from a 100 yard zero. The 100gr TTSX launched at 3600 drops 6.8". If someone could show me a cartridge reasonable for everything up to Elk that shoots flatter than that inside 300, I'd be very interested...
John my vote for elk 6.5x300weatherby 140sst @3500 2.2 down @ 300 with 100yd zero.. You working in MOA or inches? My program (Point Blank) shows that load down about 7" at 300 with a 100 yard zero. Still pretty dang flat though... John
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Flat shooting it is.Only requires 3.25 of up to be on at 400 yards from a 100 yard zero.Thats pretty flat So that would be about 13" down at 400. That is pretty dang flat. About 2" flatter than my 80gr TTSX load from the .257 Wby., and 3" flatter than the 100gr TTSX. Very impressive. John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Addressing the original post, a .257 Weatherby with a 80gr TTSX launched at 3850 drops 6.1" at 300 yards from a 100 yard zero. The 100gr TTSX launched at 3600 drops 6.8". If someone could show me a cartridge reasonable for everything up to Elk that shoots flatter than that inside 300, I'd be very interested...
John my vote for elk 6.5x300weatherby 140sst @3500 2.2 down @ 300 with 100yd zero.. You working in MOA or inches? My program (Point Blank) shows that load down about 7" at 300 with a 100 yard zero. Still pretty dang flat though... John yes thats in moa...
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+1 I've chased too many wounded moose and elk while guiding that have been shot with sub-.308 calibers over the years. I won't even hunt with people that use any less. Sounds like the people you hunt with cannot shoot very well.
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so...flattest to 300 yds but enough cartidge for elk..hmm
7 Rum 140 AB .485BC 3500 fps
270 roy, 130 interbond .456 BC 3500fps
300 rum 150 AB or IB 35-3600 fps
I'm sure the 30/378, 300 wby, and others of the like are pretty damn flat to 300 also..
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+1 I've chased too many wounded moose and elk while guiding that have been shot with sub-.308 calibers over the years. I won't even hunt with people that use any less. Sounds like the people you hunt with cannot shoot very well. They shoot well but miss the vitals, due to deflections or the critter wasn't just standing quite right, or the sun got in my eye. The flippen reason is a box of bullets lasts them 5 years to shoot.
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