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Anyone else notice this floating around out there? A BAR Lighweight Stalker 308 in a carbine length? http://www.gunsamerica.com/96160464..._WIN_CARBINE_FLUTED_BARREL_NEW_IN_BO.htmIt's about time that they made a shorter little semi-auto. Too bad they only made a limited run of it, non-catalog item it looks like. Great option for those looking at the Rem 750 Carbines..... Anyone have one of these?
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I had one 12-13 yrs ago in 30-06 that was in wood with parkerized metal and had a muzzle break on it. It wasn't a light weight though.
I liked the rifle but the bang tore my azz up. I sold it. Had a VXIII 1.5x6 on it.
Wish I had it back, I'd rebarrel it.
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I've seen them around for $800-900. I called Browning about this gun, they said it was a one-time run in 2009, only 150 made. I couldn't let this go- who knows, maybe a collector one day, maybe a sweet little gun to carry in the thick woods. Either way, one is coming my way....
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What all cals did they do it in? I wish they could find a way to turn that BAR into a 7 lb gun (naked). 4 me, they're just too heavy.
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What all cals did they do it in? I wish they could find a way to turn that BAR into a 7 lb gun (naked). 4 me, they're just too heavy. 308 Carbine only I guess. And it IS right at 7 lbs! Fluted barrel and synth stock shaves some weight. A tad lighter and a smidge shorter than the Rem 750 308 Carbine from specs.
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"Receiver - Aircraft-grade alloy"
That turned me off to ANY of the lightweight BAR's.
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You'd be surprised how well they shoot...
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"Receiver - Aircraft-grade alloy"
That turned me off to ANY of the lightweight BAR's. The BLR's have had that for quite a while now- people seem to love their BLR's. I'll own a BLR 358 sometime down the road too. What don't you like about that? Worried about scope mounting? I have heard of people cranking down the mount screws into the aluminum receivers and stripping out the threads. But I think if you're careful and do things to proper torque you should be fine. I guess we'll find out.
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It is most likely a fantastic deer rifle! I've thought often of how a carbine type BAR would be great.
I've owned more than a few BAR's. Magnums, and both long and short action chamberings too. I just personally think steel is the very best receiver for durability and longevity. I don't worry only over scope base mounting screws but also the barrel/receiver union.
I know the AR-15 and M16/M4 platforms have worked well for years with steel carriers inside alloy receivers. And the .308 platforms by Armalite, DPMS and others are working well too.
The only BLR I've owned was an older model, and it was a steel receiver. Was a fine little rifle in .308.
I'd love to see one of these BAR rifles firing on a slow motion camera. The flex is probably quite significant.
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I just personally think steel is the very best receiver for durability and longevity. I'd love to see one of these BAR rifles firing on a slow motion camera. The flex is probably quite significant. Possibly, but don't you think Browning took that into consideration when designing the rifle? How many thousands of the aluminum receiver BLR's and BAR's have been in use over the years without problems? I would think that if it was a problem, you would've heard people screaming about it by now. And mostly I seem to hear about the Brownings is..... 'how well they shoot'.... Never owned one before this. When I was a kid Dad had a Grade II Belgium that jammed a lot- sold that. I own lots of rifles, but this will be my first Browning.
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I don't care too much what the engineers at FN believe or have faith in. That's their job to worry over, not mine. And I'm sure they are quite qualified. I trust their years of experience.
But, much has changed in the big gun business of late. Cutting expenses, dropping quality and growing profit margins are the norm. Engineering is not running the show anymore. Their imput is getting smaller.
For me, I simply like steel in my high power centerfire rifles. Lots of it. YMMV.
Please enjoy the rifle. It appears to be a good candidate for thick brush, long walks and fast shooting in whitetail country! I'm sure it will hold value well too, as it is a quite limited production item. Let us know your results.
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For me, I simply like steel in my high power centerfire rifles. Lots of it. YMMV. I hear ya.... I thought it would be an interesting departure from the norm. I also have a Remington semi-auto carbine that I'm having bored up to 358, 'just because'. Life is too short for uninteresting rifles.
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Life is too short for uninteresting rifles.
Ain't that the truth! Enjoy it! Let us know how it performs!
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I don't care too much what the engineers at FN believe or have faith in. That's their job to worry over, not mine. And I'm sure they are quite qualified. I trust their years of experience.
But, much has changed in the big gun business of late. Cutting expenses, dropping quality and growing profit margins are the norm. Engineering is not running the show anymore. Their imput is getting smaller.
For me, I simply like steel in my high power centerfire rifles. Lots of it. YMMV.
Please enjoy the rifle. It appears to be a good candidate for thick brush, long walks and fast shooting in whitetail country! I'm sure it will hold value well too, as it is a quite limited production item. Let us know your results. The AR type rifles all use aluminum receivers, there are a few of them in 308, 7-08, 260 etc centerfire... no problems I can recall..
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It looks like a BAR Crapshoot to me!
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do they chrome the chambers in these guns?
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One of my favorite guns I own: I have another in .300 WM that I've hunted with quite a bit and it (wearing a 4-16x44 scope) is pretty hefty. But this little .243 is a pleasure to pack and shoot. It's also one of the most accurate guns I have. It will be my first choice for the forseeable future.
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The AR type rifles all use aluminum receivers, there are a few of them in 308, 7-08, 260 etc centerfire... no problems I can recall..
Sure you want to go speaking for ALL of those rifles? I know I would not.
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no receiver failures that I have ever heard of, have you specific information to the contrary? and again what you speak of is of no great concern unless you have some pedigree I am unaware of, if so enlighten me.
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