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Assume a Krieger stainless 1/8.5" twist barrel, light-Palma contour, finished at either 26" or 28" (I don't like waiting: Sinclair Int'l has these in stock)
Assume a short action, .473" bolt face action.
Intended use is paper punching out to 600 yards regularly, and 1000 yards very occasionally (my home range has a 600 yard facility; 1000 yard ranges in the area would require a special trip to get to). Known distance ranges probably 95% of the time with very occasional long range shooting on public land (I do this about once a year, given the drive-time to really wide open Oregon from where I live).
Stock will be either a McMillan or, and I have to read more on this, an Eliseo tube gun rifle stock. Rifle weight will be under 14 pounds. No muzzle brake so if I want to enter a match (either F-open or high power open) I should be able to with a few equipment tweaks.
Thoughts?
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6.5x47 Lapua, 123 Serria's at 3050.
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I have been going through a similar exercise and was actually considering the 6.5 remington magnum, but where I live in Aust, we can't get dies, brass or the like. I have shot a 260Rem for sometime and have not found it wanting so would probably lean this way...in fact I have just ordered another barrel in this cartridge. I figure if I can't stop a deer with a 120grain BT or 125 Partition, I need more gun and would step up to my 7mmRM. Having said that it seem like everything I point the 260 at seems to end up in the freezer. It is a great little round that hits out of all proportion to its size. This is an excellent article if you are considering some of the smaller offerings. http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/Good luck LowBC
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I would go with a 6.5x47 Lapua with 130g Berger VLDs.
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6.5/06 with 140gr Bergers. With a light palma contour it won't be a flyweight so go long action for the case capacity. 260 AI can get close but you'll need a centerfeed mag/bottom metal for it to feed reliably, so an ADL long action will wind up lighter.
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6.5/06 with 140gr Bergers. With a light palma contour it won't be a flyweight so go long action for the case capacity. 260 AI can get close but you'll need a centerfeed mag/bottom metal for it to feed reliably, so an ADL long action will wind up lighter. He wanted a short action caliber, I dont think an 06 based case fits into a short action.
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i went with the 6.5x47 lapua, and it should be done in a couple more months. good ballistics, great brass, good barrel life, not a tone of downside to that one;)
I will be using it for most of what you want to do, and it should fit the bill perfectly! that demigod article someone posted up is a great read.
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.260 Rem if you handload. 6.5 Creedmoore if you don't.
The 6.5x47 just can't quite keep up with the .260. You'll be able to get around 2925fps with RE17 and no pressure issues. At least, that's what I'm getting out of my Brux.
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I'm totally baffled why one would choose a 6.5x47 over the 260 Rem?
Makes no sense except for maybe superior Lapua brass but that would not be enough for me to choose it.
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How 'bout the 6.5-284? The best performance you can get out of a short action with that bolt face.
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I'm totally baffled why one would choose a 6.5x47 over the 260 Rem?
Makes no sense except for maybe superior Lapua brass but that would not be enough for me to choose it.
That is the only reason I have ever been given. You can get Norma .260 brass. I think that should do away with that argument.
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260 Ack Imp w/8 twist
Min 27" tube......
Lapua 308 brass necked down & FF'd
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I'm totally baffled why one would choose a 6.5x47 over the 260 Rem?
Makes no sense except for maybe superior Lapua brass but that would not be enough for me to choose it.
That is the only reason I have ever been given. You can get Norma .260 brass. I think that should do away with that argument. brass doesn't have to say Norma to be good brass.. I do just fine necking down Rem 308 nickel brass or Winchester 7/08 and 308 brass for my 260s.. 6.5 x 47 is just trying to reinvent the wheel, when compared to a 260.. so for short action, my pick would be the 260 of course.. long action, my favorite is the rare, 6.5 x 57... just because so few folks shoot it, but all you do is neck up 257 Roberts brass and you are good to go..
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I had heard that the 6.5x284 worked better in a long action and fed better too. Not sure about the feeding issues but either way, not sure how much you gain over a 260rem in a short action compared to a 6.5x284 in the smae action. I would imagine at 600 yards it wouldn't be more than a few inches.
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In my short action 6.5-284 I gain 250 fps over the 260.
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I'm totally baffled why one would choose a 6.5x47 over the 260 Rem?
Makes no sense except for maybe superior Lapua brass but that would not be enough for me to choose it.
I would choose it because of the Lapua brass and improved case design (longer neck, small rifle primers). Does that make enough difference to choose it over a 260? It would to me.
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I'm totally baffled why one would choose a 6.5x47 over the 260 Rem?
Makes no sense except for maybe superior Lapua brass but that would not be enough for me to choose it. What is the performance in the two cartridges in equal length barrels?
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264 magnum is probably the best long range cartridge ever developed, however if you want the barrel to last longer I would go with the 6.5-284.
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.260, if Laupua had made brass for it a few years ago I dont think you would have even seen the 6.5x47 in the US market. I was struggling with this one as well but I went the easy way out and built a .243...
I also like the 6.5 Creedmore and the fact it is domesticly available.
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