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Thinking about picking up one of these rifles, but dont
want to go broke on ammo. Any input? Regards, Jericho

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Reloading is the cheap way out. Easy to neck up 8x57s.
Load data available in Big Bore Cartridges from Wolfe publishing.

http://www.riflemagazine.com/catalog/detail.cfm?productid=76&subcategoryid=8

Slug the bore as most will work fine with standard cup and core 35 caliber bullets.

Here is some data from another site:

"9X57 is a much lower pressure rating than the .35 Whelen.... CIP's rating is 2800 bar (40 500 PSI).

250 grains / H4895 (AR2206) / 45 grains / 2250 fps
250 grains / Varget (AR2208) / 49 grains / 2250 fps

280 grains / H4895 (AR2206) / 41.50 grains / 2100 fps
280 grains / Varget (AR2208) / 45 grains / 2100 fps"

It's also a great cast bullet cartridge as a long heavy slug
+-300 gr can be pushed as fast a lead can (+-2000 fps) and will penetrate for a day and a half. We have had excellent results in our single shot based on the so called Mauser 88 (really the Commission rifle) with NEI mold 358-268-GC-DD

http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/index.html

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I checked all the likely sources of ammunition I could think of and there was no 9x57mm listed. Empty brass is available. Looks like it will be a handloading proposition.

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That's what I found.

If your bore is a true .356 then you can get good .356 jacketed bullets from Hawk bullets:

http://www.hawkbullets.com/

Or .357 lead from a number of sources incl Beartooth. Lead is the safest and most effective way to go with these old beasts...IMHO.

Personally, I wouldn't shoot .358 jacketed bullets in my 93 Mauser, but I know some folks do. A lot depends on the condition off your rifle, but running larger bullets than the bore will increase pressures. IF you have a 98 Mauser, then that's less of a concern.

Remember, the 98 has excellent gas handling safeguards for a case separation or pierced primer...the 93's and 95's are not as good. So ask yourself how many fps gain is your eyesight worth?



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here you go....a little pricey, but how many do you need to have enough cases to keep her shooting forever. still cheaper than .257 Roy factory ammo. wink

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,4667.html


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Buffalo Arms stuff works well, too -- and they sell .356 diameter bullets, which look a whole lot like Hornady bullets. I have a commercial 1908-made model '98 in 9x57, and it shoots .358 diameter bullets with no problem, but I have no intent to shoot TSX or suchlike bullets in it, either. A 250-gr .356 or .358 diameter Hornady round-nosed bullet launched at 2250 fps will happily kill anything I can shoot at iron-sight distance anyway, so there's really no issue.

Cool old rifles, and making ammo is quite easy.

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Old factory ammo...

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I like it a lot... smile

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Quality Cartridge offers custom ammo as well.


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