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A couple of years ago I bought a used Model 75 Sako in 25-06. After putting a few hundred rounds through it and not performing to my satisfaction it went down the road as a trade on another gun. Don't raise your blood pressure to the point of having a stroke over an unsatisfactory gun. Move on, thats the smartest thing to do IMO.
These days I stick to new guns so if there is a problem there is some warranty to fall back on. Jim
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I saw the gun, had it in my hands and looked at the target in the box. The chambers were not finished. Someone there put the wrong gun in the box and it left...
If you don't believe it you can ask Lee. He is now CEO of a major arms importer in TX.
I don't remember the exact model, but it was a lesser priced production gun that retailed for around $6,000.00
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I still do not understand what either Sako or the repair center did wrong?? What is the argument being it is an old used rifle that is out of warranty??? Exactly, and I am sorry you got a gun that doesn't shoot. It is awfully frustrating, and most of us have been there at least once.
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I still do not understand what either Sako or the repair center did wrong?? What is the argument being it is an old used rifle that is out of warranty??? had they told me, "sorry, but you are out of warranty, we can fix it, but it will be at your expense" I would have said, no thanks.....and put a for sale sign on it or re tubed it. now I am $200 deeper into a rifle that "should be better"
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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I did speak to a human at beretta today. they told me that they were sorry they had me send the gun in as there is no warranty to the second owner regardless of age. they also said if I want to see the gun again, pay the man.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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pay for it, get it back then trip the sucker! cause even if it shoots or you re-barrel it, you're still going to resent the gun...
I can't spell... Deal with it...
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I just want to puke at the fact that i am $200 deeper into a pile of chit.
I would have been fine with bedding the gun and trying all my tricks, but I knew they would never honor the warranty. I was happy when they told me to send it in and they would have a peek, now I am so dissapointed that my 686's are going down the road.
I WILL be wearing a shirt that expresses how I feel about beretta at every shoot I go to from now on.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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its a 75 finnlight. they can keep he POS. Brother ,I'll pay the bill on the gun ,if you'll give it to me.Heck,I'll pay the repair and shipping just let me have it.
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Sorry to hear your problems, years back I had good work at Bolsa until last year. Took a BLR that Browning claimed they would repair the trigger (nearly 8 lb pull) and paid an extra $125 to have "the action cleaned up". Got the gun back and it would misfire on around every third round with factory ammo! Thy shipped it to Browning main service center, three months later I get it back...still a POS! Finally found a gunsmith in Erie PA to fix it right and with shipping it was less than my "warranty" service from Browning. Similiar issues with Winchester service when they were in Conn.
So the best bet if you want the gun is to find a good gunsmith and have it fixed right.
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I did speak to a human at beretta today. they told me that they were sorry they had me send the gun in as there is no warranty to the second owner regardless of age. they also said if I want to see the gun again, pay the man. i don't understand that they (Beretta) even admit they should not have told you to send it in, which then in my opinion puts the error on them and not the consumer. at that point (& i wish you had gotten that on a recording)to me anyway, it is their error and their financial responcibility. heck the fact that the repair center never told you the repairs were going to be on your dime is yet another error on the repair centers fault, again IMHO putting the burden of repair cost onto them. there has to be someplace you can file a legit complaint and cause them some grief somewhere.
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Sako and Beretta was a marriage made in Hell. At least when Garcia and Stoeger imported them Sako still called the shots. That Barrel steel problem they had a few years back should be blamed on Beretta since they were trying to up production of Sako barrels since I guess they were not being made fast enough. Berettas customer service is flat out terrible and has been since inception.
That said this rifle is clearly out of warranty and it is the discretion of the manufacturer on whether the customer gets charged or not. I have sent in Rugers,Winchesters and most of all Remingtons back for work after the warranty period expired and the only mfr that never charged was Browning(Winchester). In fact I bought a 1995 Model 70 SS laminate last year and the bolt handle assembly was not on right(this was a NIB rifle BTW) it went back to Browning and they charged me zip nada for fixing the problem.
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browning gave me a brand new rifle when i sent in a 10 yr old non original owner micro last winter for accuracy issues. i was floored to say the least.
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Beretta/Sako/Burris,Benelli/etc. There seems to be a very clear pattern here, poor customer service is the common thread. All companies owned by Beretta, too. Hmmmmmm......
Funny thing is, the Beretta outfit down in Australia has nothing but praise heaped on it. I wonder why they treat the US buyers so differently? Downunder, they have a stellar reputation for service above and beyond. I've talked to the Sako/Tikka guys at the NRA Convention, and came away vowing to never buy anything from them, arrogance personified, IMHO.
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A kid here at work needed a part for his Benelli. Every time he called they told him the part was not available and they would call him when it came in. He had a Pheasant hunt in Nebraska coming up. Every day he called several times and on the fourth day he got his part. The person at Beretta said they were in stock the whole time.
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I did speak to a human at beretta today. they told me that they were sorry they had me send the gun in as there is no warranty to the second owner regardless of age. they also said if I want to see the gun again, pay the man. i don't understand that they (Beretta) even admit they should not have told you to send it in, which then in my opinion puts the error on them and not the consumer. at that point (& i wish you had gotten that on a recording)to me anyway, it is their error and their financial responcibility. heck the fact that the repair center never told you the repairs were going to be on your dime is yet another error on the repair centers fault, again IMHO putting the burden of repair cost onto them. there has to be someplace you can file a legit complaint and cause them some grief somewhere. and therein lies th root of my anger on this deal. had they told me it would get fixed on my dime I would have understood.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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I bought a Beretta Xtrema a while ago. Had the gun for a few months and shot some 3 1/2" rounds thru it. I noticed a scratch running down the bore and could not get it out by cleaning the gun no matter what I tried . Sent it in to Beretta and it came back in 3 weeks untouched. They told me the gun was within specs and that it was just the chrome plating removed....I guess they didn't want to replace an almost 500 dollar barrel because of cosmetic purposes. To me it was a faulty plating job. I don't own the gun anymore.
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Geeze, I've been thinking a Sako Forum would be nice.
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Damn, I hate to say I told ya so, but I did. Nothing new there. Just hope you get lucky next time or buy a Remington or Savage. Sako's do have really smooth actions though... Buy a remington? What kind of advise is that. Do you not like the guy? They have the absolute worst service department in my opinion. They sent me a rifle back that shot 2-3 moa saying that it was well within acceptable parameters..
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Maybe it shot better for them. Kiddin' aside, I'm batting about .800 on Remington (700's, not Sevens),.500 on Winchesters and .200 on Sako. I'd have to say that Savage is the only rifle brand that I have never had "not shoot".
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Maybe it shot better for them. Kiddin' aside, I'm batting about .800 on Remington (700's, not Sevens),.500 on Winchesters and .200 on Sako. I'd have to say that Savage is the only rifle brand that I have never had "not shoot". I am with you on the savage for sure!
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