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who you calling a bastard?
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I've heard of GreyBull Precision for quite a while now, but am not familiar with Sisk. I don't think not being familiar with a company has anything to do with the product they put out. I think it just depends on which circles you run in, and where you get your information from.
If his customers are happy, then the company has nothing to prove to me. If I was interested in purchasing their product, then I may have questions on what I am getting, but as I already know that I do not live in an area where long range shots are common and therefore do not need the product, they again, have nothing to prove to me.
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300MAG,
Are you proposing a competition??
Please direct us to the gunsmith you will be choosing to assemble your turnkey rifle. I would love to see his prices to assemble such a shooting system.
I propose you have him assemble just such a system and we have ourselves a little shooting competition. You with your bargain setup and me with my way overpriced 2nd rate component system.
We play a game of rifle horse (Kind of like the basketball version) and loser pays for the other guys rifle.
All shots must simulate some sort of realistic shot a hunter might be presented with while hunting big game and all shooting is done from field positions.
When would you like to schedule the event and we will of course video and post the results.
On a side note at the moment we use Jewel triggers but are always on the lookout for components that offer an advantage over what we currently use.
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Coldbore, comments remind me of the BP disaster, 'little people' lol.
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If you don't want to pay $6k for his or anybody else's rifle don't! There are a lot of people who will and don't begrudge the man for making a profit! What are y'all a bunch of obama socialists!
Crap I saw a laminated stock the other day and posted about it they wanted $4K I think just for the freakin stock...
I'm not willing to, but I don't hate the man or his products! As mentioned earlier I'm not willing to fork up for Sisk or many of the other fine smiths mentioned in a thread, but I don't begrudge them because there are some that will.
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There needs to be a bunch of gold coins thrown into the bet to make it interesting...
(old timers here will get this. For the newbies, don't worry, it's not that funny)
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I've heard of GreyBull Precision for quite a while now, but am not familiar with Sisk. I don't think not being familiar with a company has anything to do with the product they put out. I think it just depends on which circles you run in, and where you get your information from.
If his customers are happy, then the company has nothing to prove to me. If I was interested in purchasing their product, then I may have questions on what I am getting, but as I already know that I do not live in an area where long range shots are common and therefore do not need the product, they again, have nothing to prove to me. Charlie is a board member and great guy! Mike
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There needs to be a bunch of gold coins thrown into the bet to make it interesting...
(old timers here will get this. For the newbies, don't worry, it's not that funny) Don't cause nightmares dude!' Mike
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And I have a salvage that will punch holes with the best of them...whats your point? I think you just reinforced it, glaringly.
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And I have a salvage that will punch holes with the best of them...whats your point? I think you just reinforced it, glaringly. 
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300MAG,
Are you proposing a competition??
Please direct us to the gunsmith you will be choosing to assemble your turnkey rifle. I would love to see his prices to assemble such a shooting system.
I propose you have him assemble just such a system and we have ourselves a little shooting competition. You with your bargain setup and me with my way overpriced 2nd rate component system.
We play a game of rifle horse (Kind of like the basketball version) and loser pays for the other guys rifle.
All shots must simulate some sort of realistic shot a hunter might be presented with while hunting big game and all shooting is done from field positions.
When would you like to schedule the event and we will of course video and post the results.
On a side note at the moment we use Jewel triggers but are always on the lookout for components that offer an advantage over what we currently use.
I asked for a line-item break down of how you came up with your price of $6000?? Would like to see how you came about your price!!! You're telling us that a Rem 700 action trued/squared, B&C stock, your barrel from secret manufacuturer, Jewell trigger, and a Leupold scope with custom turrtes & some loaded ammo is worth $6000?? Couple questions for you: Are you the actual smith on these rifles?? Why must an animal always be shot at 600+ yards?? You can't hunt yourself into a closer range for a better shot?? Ever research "Greybull Precision" on www.snipershide.com
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300MAG Did you also ask Mr. Near to give you a breakdown on why his scope mounts are $300-$500?
How about a breakdown of the parts which go into a Nightforce scope which makes them worth $1500+?
No manufacturer owes you or anyone else that kind of information. This is America, you're free to spend or not spend your money as you see fit.
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300MAG Did you also ask Mr. Near to give you a breakdown on why his scope mounts are $300-$500?
How about a breakdown of the parts which go into a Nightforce scope which makes them worth $1500+?
No manufacturer owes you or anyone else that kind of information. This is America, you're free to spend or not spend your money as you see fit. I'm also free to ask for a break down of components also!!! If you look at my post that originally asked for this break-down, I said if he gave the it then great, if he decided not too, that was fine too, I understood!!
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300MAG,
Mr. Burns is putting his money where his mouth is and offered to buy you a custom turnkey rifle if your expensive component rifle can beat his rifle in a contest of field position shooting.
Sounds like it should be easy for you to take his rifle with your wonder rifle.
After all, you can afford it, you said so yourself.
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300MAG,
Mr. Burns is putting his money where his mouth is and offered to buy you a custom turnkey rifle if your expensive component rifle can beat his rifle in a contest of field position shooting.
Sounds like it should be easy for you to take his rifle with your wonder rifle.
After all, you can afford it, you said so yourself. Never said I had a wonder rifle, now did I ????
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I don't own one, so I don't have a dog in this fight. I do teach economics and line item prices are irrelevant. If it was my business the only thing I would consider is price elasticity of demand.
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plenty of guys don't have the time, patience or knowledge to pick their own components and do proper load development and drop charts.
BUT they do have the $$ to let someone else do it for them in a first class way so that their time (which is finite) is better spent actually shooting and/or hunting.
Nothing in the world wrong with that. Supply and demand guys.
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What the hell did i do? only asked if he had a layaway program??? grins
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300MAG,
Mr. Burns is putting his money where his mouth is and offered to buy you a custom turnkey rifle if your expensive component rifle can beat his rifle in a contest of field position shooting.
Sounds like it should be easy for you to take his rifle with your wonder rifle.
After all, you can afford it, you said so yourself. Never said I had a wonder rifle, now did I ???? The rifle you already own won't do it since it has to be a turnkey rifle which you take directly from the box and with NO additional work, such as scope mounting or load development, begin the competition. That is what Mr. Burns is selling, long range accuracy with turnkey convenience.
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