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hunting through the ages..... #4461864 09/30/10
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler OP Campfire Ranger
OP rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	bored, sitting on the couch, cant do anything cause of healing from back surgery......have a stack of mammal evolution books im working my way through....some cool critters.... Mammut borsoni, from Europe about 3 million years ago, tusks over 14 and a half feet Pelorvis antiquus, actually lived in northern Africa as recently as 4,000 years ago entelodont, hell pig......was found over Europe, Asia and North America from around 35mya to 16mya.....various species, some were over 6 foot tall at the shoulder.....nasty buggers, what you would figure a 6 foot tall wild pig would be like Andrewsarchus mongoliensis, largest meating mammal ever to live which was from about 45mya to 30mya.....3 foot skull....interesting point? it was a hoofed mammal, the thing is more closely related to sheep than it is any living predator.... Libralces gallicus, from around 2.5mya in Europe.....antlers well over 6 and a half feet wide [img]http://www.mauricioanton.com/dibujos/images/15-Libralces.jpg[/img] A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: hunting through the ages..... rattler #4461871 09/30/10
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,738 MN, WI, IL, MI, KS, GA, AZ, IA B BrentD Campfire Outfitter
BrentD Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,738 MN, WI, IL, MI, KS, GA, AZ, IA	Man, a .45-70 would have been tall-cotton, back then.... Save an elk, shoot a cow.

Re: hunting through the ages..... BrentD #4461896 09/30/10
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler OP Campfire Ranger
OP rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	elasmotherium, 9 foot at the shoulder, 20 feet long, lived in central Asia till about 1.6mya A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: hunting through the ages..... rattler #4461926 09/30/10
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone V VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna
VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	Pantera leo atrox American Lion: 11.5' long; 1000 pounds.

Re: hunting through the ages..... VAnimrod #4461932 09/30/10
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone V VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna
VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	Smilodon fatalis Sabre Toothed Cat 4-5 feet long with a one-foot long skull, 2 huge canine teeth and a very strong jaw and neck muscles that ate prehistoric horses, and possibly mastodons and bison.

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Re: hunting through the ages..... rattler #4461945 09/30/10
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,240 Yakima WA Kenlguy Campfire Tracker
Kenlguy Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,240 Yakima WA	Originally Posted by rattler some were over 6 foot tall at the shoulder.....nasty buggers, what you would figure a 6 foot tall wild pig would be like Probably kinda tough and chewy but a hellofalot more fun to hunt than the dinks we have now I could wish a lot of things on my worst enemy but neuropathy ain't one of them.

Re: hunting through the ages..... VAnimrod #4461949 09/30/10
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler OP Campfire Ranger
OP rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	latest studies show the American lion was really a type jaguar, much more heavily built than lions of similar size..... Stegotetrabelodon.......two sets of tusks.... A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: hunting through the ages..... VAnimrod #4461951 09/30/10
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone V VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna
VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	Arctodus simus - Giant Short Faced Bear 5 feet at the shoulder; 9-11 feet standing; 1600-1800 pounds; strongest jaws of any mammal in history

Re: hunting through the ages..... VAnimrod #4461962 09/30/10
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone V VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna
VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	Megalania prisca - giant "ripper" roamer lizard Up to 21 feet long, and 4,000 pounds (average around 8 feet and 700-800 pounds)

Re: hunting through the ages..... VAnimrod #4461971 09/30/10
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler OP Campfire Ranger
OP rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	Originally Posted by VAnimrod Megalania prisca - giant "ripper" roamer lizard Up to 21 feet long, and 4,000 pounds (average around 8 feet and 700-800 pounds) those [bleep] were still around when the Aborigines hit Australia..... A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

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Re: hunting through the ages..... rattler #4461992 09/30/10
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler OP Campfire Ranger
OP rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	Platybelodon, shovel tusked elephant from 25mya.....lived in swampy areas and was roughly 9 foot at the shoulder A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: hunting through the ages..... rattler #4462073 09/30/10
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone V VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna
VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	Originally Posted by rattler Originally Posted by VAnimrod Megalania prisca - giant "ripper" roamer lizard Up to 21 feet long, and 4,000 pounds (average around 8 feet and 700-800 pounds) those [bleep] were still around when the Aborigines hit Australia..... Yep. That gives you a warm-fuzzy, knowing you've got a rock and a sharp stick, and it's got all the standard attributes and saliva so hideously putrid that one scratch will kill you from infection (NASTY way to go) in 48 hours.

Re: hunting through the ages..... VAnimrod #4462087 09/30/10
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler OP Campfire Ranger
OP rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	Originally Posted by VAnimrod Originally Posted by rattler Originally Posted by VAnimrod Megalania prisca - giant "ripper" roamer lizard Up to 21 feet long, and 4,000 pounds (average around 8 feet and 700-800 pounds) those [bleep] were still around when the Aborigines hit Australia..... Yep. That gives you a warm-fuzzy, knowing you've got a rock and a sharp stick, and it's got all the standard attributes and saliva so hideously putrid that one scratch will kill you from infection (NASTY way to go) in 48 hours. figure some of those bastards might be the origins of eastern dragon myths? isolated populations could have easily made it into oral histories of locals i would think......several thousand years of retelling and i can see those things turning in into a Japanese dragon..... Last edited by rattler; 09/30/10. A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: hunting through the ages..... rattler #4462594 09/30/10
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	When I was a kid I remember seeing photos of Monte Carlo Bighorn Sheep, where the rams had horns that spiraled outward two or three revolutions, winding up being 3-4 feet across. At the time I read they were very rare, mostly found in Afghanistan. Hopefully someday it will be safe to hunt them again... http://www.wildsheep.org/sheep/international/marco_polo_argali.htm "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: hunting through the ages..... rattler #4462800 09/30/10
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL T LEE Campfire Kahuna
T LEE Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL	Just glad a bunch of those ain't around any more. George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you! Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me

Re: hunting through the ages..... T LEE #4462847 09/30/10
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OP rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	to true Terry.....surprising how close some came to the present....some were dieing out just as the first real civilizations were being built in Mesopotamia.....on a timeline we missed some by less than the width of a hair..... A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: hunting through the ages..... rattler #4462862 09/30/10
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 12,895 North Wales, UK Pete E Campfire Outfitter
Pete E Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 12,895 North Wales, UK	Originally Posted by rattler figure some of those bastards might be the origins of eastern dragon myths? isolated populations could have easily made it into oral histories of locals i would think......several thousand years of retelling and i can see those things turning in into a Japanese dragon..... The Komodo Dragon springs to mind... Last edited by Pete E; 09/30/10. Men of Harlech

Re: hunting through the ages..... VAnimrod #4463858 09/30/10
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 929 The Gorge W Woodsmaster Campfire Regular
Woodsmaster Campfire Regular W Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 929 The Gorge	Originally Posted by VAnimrod That gives you a warm-fuzzy, knowing you've got a rock and a sharp stick Did cavemen ever sit around and debate the best spear or rock for hunting? Did older cavemen say they used to use a nice light spear or medium sized rock, while the younger cavemen said they just bounced off them now?

Re: hunting through the ages..... Woodsmaster #4463930 10/01/10
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mjbgalt Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 15,764 Likes: 1	use enough rock...

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