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Oh, geez... Not RP again.. (rolling eyes here)..


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I plan to just that.

Ron Paul is no longer a kook except to the Neocons like Steve and Bob.

As many know I support and work with a Irish dance school. The other night some Christian parents that teach religious education were talking about a program called "Safe Child". I asked what that was and they said it's a program that all people who deal with kids are suppose to go through. It's to teach adults how to behave with children. Under this program giving a child a hug is wrong. Showing any type of affection or love is also wrong. Apparently though, if you are a TSA agent groping children and their private parts is alright. No "safe Child" program with these guys. Over my dead body.


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
Ron Paul is no longer a kook except to the Neocons like Steve and Bob.
Stated differently, It is now clear to all that Ron Paul was never the kook the neocons claimed he was.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by derby_dude
Ron Paul is no longer a kook except to the Neocons like Steve and Bob.
Stated differently, It is now clear to all that Ron Paul was never the kook the neocons claimed he was.


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yes, he is still just as much of a kook. he is also becoming a more skilled attention whore with the ability to cash in on a headline. nobody was getting spooled up enough about auditing the fed, but on this one he's got Drudge doing his PR for him every day.


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Originally Posted by Steve_NO
yes, he is still just as much of a kook. he is also becoming a more skilled attention whore with the ability to cash in on a headline. nobody was getting spooled up enough about auditing the fed, but on this one he's got Drudge doing his PR for him every day.


kook or not, auditing the FED is a good idea, as is this one.

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Originally Posted by Steve_NO
yes, he is still just as much of a kook. he is also becoming a more skilled attention whore with the ability to cash in on a headline. nobody was getting spooled up enough about auditing the fed, but on this one he's got Drudge doing his PR for him every day.
So are you saying you disagree with RP on this? The bottom-line is, kook or not, RP was ahead of most of the Rep Old Boys Club including the last Presidential candidate we fielded, on this. Way ahead. So whether you think he's nuts or not, some grudging kudos are possibly in order for being out ahead of the crowd. (Also called "leadership" as opposed to following along like a good partisan.) Also, one might want to re-evaluate their assessment of his kookiness if RP is right on this. I mean, he might be like, right on a few other things, like auditing the Fed? Or not?

No offense, just sayin'...

Also, wasn't one of the knocks on RP that he wasn't well enough known to be effective? That he had sound ideas but had such a bad presentation and was so unknown that his ideas could never get airplay? Isn't being an attention whore a good thing in this case? Or maybe not...

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Originally Posted by smalljawbasser
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yes, he is still just as much of a kook. he is also becoming a more skilled attention whore with the ability to cash in on a headline. nobody was getting spooled up enough about auditing the fed, but on this one he's got Drudge doing his PR for him every day.


kook or not, auditing the FED is a good idea, as is this one.



I think auditing the fed is a good idea. Blind hog/acorn.

Haven't looked at the TSA bill yet....but I fly all the time so I hate the whole system already, and nobody has even tried to feel me up yet.


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Originally Posted by ColeYounger
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
yes, he is still just as much of a kook. he is also becoming a more skilled attention whore with the ability to cash in on a headline. nobody was getting spooled up enough about auditing the fed, but on this one he's got Drudge doing his PR for him every day.
So are you saying you disagree with RP on this? The bottom-line is, kook or not, RP was ahead of most of the Rep Old Boys Club including the last Presidential candidate we fielded, on this. Way ahead. So whether you think he's nuts or not, some grudging kudos are possibly in order for being out ahead of the crowd. (Also called "leadership" as opposed to following along like a good partisan.) Also, one might want to re-evaluate their assessment of his kookiness if RP is right on this. I mean, he might be like, right on a few other things, like auditing the Fed? Or not?

No offense, just sayin'...

Also, wasn't one of the knocks on RP that he wasn't well enough known to be effective? That he had sound ideas but had such a bad presentation and was so unknown that his ideas could never get airplay? Isn't being an attention whore a good thing in this case? Or maybe not...


Cole, you don't understand the dilemma that Steve is in especially on this one. If Steve admits RP is right on this one then Steve has to admit his stalwart conservative President George W. Bush really screwed the pooch with adding a Homeland Secuirty Department and a Transportation Secuirty Agency. Steve, being the good partisan Neocon that is, isn't about to admit that to himself or any one else for that matter.

No offense is intended here toward Steve and I'm sure Steve is a good guy but politically Steve is a part of the problem not part of the solution.


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Originally Posted by Steve_NO
yes, he is still just as much of a kook
I should have said that it is now clear to all reasonable people that he has never been the kook the neocons claimed he was.

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Originally Posted by Steve_NO


Haven't looked at the TSA bill yet....but I fly all the time so I hate the whole system already, and nobody has even tried to feel me up yet.

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Just heard that a California DA (elect) is planning to station deputies at the airport ready to arrest TSA agents should they touch someone's crotch, breasts, or buttocks. If the touch is outside the pants, they will be charged with a misdemeanor. If inside the pants, they will be charged with a felony.

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Does this bill have a number yet?


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
Does this bill have a number yet?
I don't know.

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Do we need another law to protect a right already granted in the Constitution?


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Originally Posted by mcmurphrjk
Do we need another law to protect a right already granted in the Constitution?
They're ignoring the Constitution. They seem to take statutory laws more seriously. It's basically a law requiring them to follow the Constitution in this instance.

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Originally Posted by mcmurphrjk
Do we need another law to protect a right already granted in the Constitution?


Apparently, yes.


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
Originally Posted by mcmurphrjk
Do we need another law to protect a right already granted in the Constitution?


Apparently, yes.


cause the congress critters will just get it wrong.
We got the scanners to begin with 'cause Chertoff saw a buck to be made. Chertoff is just another crook


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Originally Posted by mcmurphrjk
Originally Posted by derby_dude
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Do we need another law to protect a right already granted in the Constitution?


Apparently, yes.


cause the congress critters will just get it wrong.
We got the scanners to begin with 'cause Chertoff saw a buck to be made. Chertoff is just another crook


Of course, the scanners had nothing to do with terrorism but everybody bought into it, well not everybody.


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