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By the way, what's in it for the conservation advisory board???......are they getting kickbacks from the crossbow industry???


Maybe. Can you say for sure they aren't? I'll say this, if they are completely innocent they sure handled things in a way that made themselves look guilty of good old boy backroom politics.

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Let's see.......if legalizing crossbows allows more people to get out and have fun hunting


Well crossbow legalization is not drawing new people to the sport of hunting. I already coverd the flawed logic of this thinking in an earlier post. It's just getting gun hunters in the woods a little ealier. If getting more people out there ealier having fun hunting is what it's all about then hell lets just start gun season from day one. Wouldn't that get even more people in the woods than crossbows? What? Are you just selfish and don't want to share crossbow season with gun hunters?
If this was just about getting more people out there then opening gun season Oct 15th would get lots more people out there "having fun" as you put it, but those guys already have guns so that wouldn't sell anything would it? But legalize a weapon thats as easy to learn as a gun but isn't one and then they will all have to buy it in order to hunt. And sadly that's what this is all really about.

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but it doesn't have any effect on the deer harvest


Well we don't know that and since Alabama has no tag or check in system we will never know. Annual harvest numbers in Alabama are little more than a half assed guess. Seriuosly, I'm not kidding. But simple logic dicatates that more people in the woods earlier will equate to more deer killed and more pressure on the herd which will start shifting deer into nocturnal patterns even earlier.

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what "principle" would cause you to oppose it???


The principle of why a particular primitive weapon season is created in the first place. To promote a particular sport or heritage so that it never disappears from a region. Primative weapons especially bows are not really needed as a game management tool. Guns either modern or blackpowder are far more effective in that regard. So then you tell me why do we have bow seasons? I say it is specifically to promote that particular form of hunting. The more weapons you dump into that same season the more you endanger that heritage. Especially weapons that are easier to use and basically a hybrid cross between a bow and a gun. Where were these crossbow supporters when the men we spoke of earlier were fighting to create bowseasons in their respective states? No where to be seen and why? Because there is no crossbow history or heritage in my state. Give them their own season but don't take the bowseason my forefathers fought for.

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I'm with JJ!
I don't hunt from a treeestand, use a conpound , or even a replaceble blade broadhead.
A turnbolt rifle is the LAST pick in my cabinet, and only then for sentimental reasons.
I don't bait bears, either.
That doesn't mean I am against that stuff to the point that I want it banned.

If they banned jetboats on my favorite river I would find another way of enjoying it.
I could care less if they banned quads, and would not try to "get around the law" as some do.
I also don't like assault style rifles, but don't mind seeing them at our range or in the field, as long as they are within the law.

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For me this is what it is all about not what you use. I shot this one in Sept 03 with a compound. But that wouldn't have mattered what I was using. I could have used a spear. I put the sneak on him and fired from 9 feet away. Hunting is the rush not the killing!!!!


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Blah Blah Blah, you folks are still at this? Don't you have familys or jobs? Do you think about anything else? I'm not sure I have ever seen as much drivel for this long since this site began. Why not go shoot those crossbows for a while and give this non-sense a rest. Lets face it nobody here is gonna change your minds, nor will you change theirs. You're going to be typing the same replies over and over until kingdom come.



I agree JJ, I think they should sell used cars on the side, they've sure got the line of BS for it . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


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I know where the sun DOES shine jh,...in your left ear and out your right, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Question: How do you carry a cocked crossbow?

Answer: very carefully <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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Something that I have watched this thread for and it has not been mentioned until now. Just because a crossbow is cocked, it does not have to have a bolt, in place. That can be done at a later time. miles


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you have to admit (even if you don't agree with him...) 99 had a good one there...

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I will admit that bow hunting is difficult for sure but I am really getting tired of special interest seasons as they, for the most part, benefit the manufactures of the bows, muzzle loader, etc... In GA, we have bow season, muzzle loader and general rifle. What's next, left hand hand gunners season? I say let there be "deer season" and hunt with whatever you want. bow hunters say that bow hunting during rifle season is too hard, well I thought bow hunting was all about a challenge. we are simply getting carried away with special interest seasons and I do not see the benefit to the sportsman. why should a rifle hunter have to stay home when the bow hunters are chasing the deer off the land. putting scent in the woods prior to the season rifle opener does not help matters. I hunt my own private land and I do not hunt with a bow so I do not have a personal axe to grind, I just don't get all the special seasons.

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Bowhunting with blaze orange is an exercise in futility I do not ever plan on taking..... and being in the woods during rifle season w/o blaze orange is something I will never do again. I've had 2 close calls even with blaze orange and had a very good friend shot in the head with only minimal amounts of orange on.

I was hunting back when rifle season was only 2 weeks and there was only one doe day. Also, no hunting on Sundays is allowed in Virginia. I bought my first compound bow when I was 12 just so I could hunt 4 additional Saturdays a year. I came from a family of hunters but none were bowhunters so I had to prove myself to my family as a skilled archer before they would allow me to shoot a deer.

Now that rifle season lasts 6-7 weeks and you can take does every day, that extra 4 weeks for archery might not seem like that big of deal to most gun hunters.

However, I learned a new skill/discipline simply because of my love for hunting and being in the outdoors. Even if you don't hunt with a bow, no one is stopping you from getting into the woods a month earlier with a camera or a shotgun/22 for squirrel. I doubt the bowhunters in your area are spooking the deer as bad as the small game hunters are anyways.

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As far as I know, my neighbors do not hunt small game either. I do know that human scent in the woods, left by bow hunters or others, does alert the deer if it is not part of their 365 day environment. I thought deer can not see blaze orange <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> I have had close encounters with deer while wearing blaze orange and it does not seem to make much of a difference, I think it is important not to let them see your eyes if possible and of course any movement is a deal killer. otherwise, business as usual. scent will give you away long before orange. my biggest beef is that if a many wants to hunt with a particular weapon, fine, no problem, just do not demand a special set-aside season for it. today's primitive weapons are like yesterdays 30-30, about as powerful and similar trajectory. I have never thought of a 30-30 as primitive and I would guess that 95% or better of most deer are killed with the first shot so being limited to one shot is no big deal.

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