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Pat-any chance you've shot the 167/30 cal?
Thx Dober Mark, I have shot those and they are extremely accurate. I was'nt impressed with the performance at long range compared to the 155's and I've never hunted with them. If I may ask, the long range performance of the heavier Scenars, not enough expansion? Too much expansion? Thank you, Expat
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Mark, did I send you a handful of 105's?....might be too long for a 10" twist. Do you have any 6's twisted faster than 10"?
90's in that setup might be really good.
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You did, I shot some yesterday with R25 (my 6/06 is a 10 twist), the combo didn't work out too well. This barrel is a bit wonky and really and I mean really hates the long heavies..
Thx 4 sending them though, I appreciate it.
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Pat-any chance you've shot the 167/30 cal?
Thx Dober Mark, I have shot those and they are extremely accurate. I was'nt impressed with the performance at long range compared to the 155's and I've never hunted with them. If I may ask, the long range performance of the heavier Scenars, not enough expansion? Too much expansion? Thank you, Expat When I tested them it was only at the range(167 scenars). The 155's were the clear choice performance wise.
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On the left is a 167gr scenar, on the right is a 155. They are quite different in shape....notice the slender ogive on the 155.
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You did, I shot some yesterday with R25 (my 6/06 is a 10 twist), the combo didn't work out too well. This barrel is a bit wonky and really and I mean really hates the long heavies..
Thx 4 sending them though, I appreciate it.
Can't wait 4 spring bruins, nutha 6 weeks my friend!
Dober 100 grain BTSP hornady's is as big as my 10 twist 6/06 would handle, It needs a barrel now (along with 3 other guns). so I'll fix that soon..It sure was fun with 70 grain SMK's while it lasted!
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The 100 Horns will shoot well for me also, think I used H4831 with them. If and when I rebarrel one day it'll be a quicker twist, though to date the 95 NBT's have done me very well out to 634 yds and the 70 NBT's have done very well to 505 or so (on small big game like deer/lopes).
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Another antelope that was "Lapua'ed" with a 250gr scenar at 3100fps. That bullet has a G1 BC of .675. It shoots pretty good way out there.
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Pat,
You sure like whacking 'goats with that 338 !!
Nice pics BTW.....
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Pat have yu tried any of the 77 grain Scenar in the 6MM? My Tikka .243 has a twist that measures closer to 11 than the listed 10. It shoots crazy good with the 70 grain Nosler BT and I was thinking the 77 Scenar might work well too.
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Have you tried the 123gr Scenar in the .260 Rem?
I have a very accurate .260 with a Rem factory barrel and its slow twist....I'm thinking the 123s might be better in it than the 139s.
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I have checked here for the 155, they show two diff. bullets. 155 HPBT and 155 HPBT SJ, I'm not sure what the SJ stands for? Thanks for all the pictures and info. Any help thanks.
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SJ stands for "silver jacket" ? is this what you run?
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Pat, one thing I noticed about the 155's and shooting them out to a 1000, their BC holds true. Eric S. at Berger measured them to be less but I don't think he's ever shot any at that distance to really know for sure. He has paper figures. (Eric is a great guy btw) I like that. I love the 123's out of my 6.5 and prefer them over the 139's.
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Pat - what scope are you running on your 338LM?
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Y'all boys are sure making me want to try the 123's out of my .260...
I'd be wondering about sturdiness for critters up to elk sized....
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I have checked here for the 155, they show two diff. bullets. 155 HPBT and 155 HPBT SJ, I'm not sure what the SJ stands for? Thanks for all the pictures and info. Any help thanks. I think that the silver jacket is a moly coated bullet (I could be wrong)...
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Pat, one thing I noticed about the 155's and shooting them out to a 1000, their BC holds true.
Eric S. at Berger measured them to be less but I don't think he's ever shot any at that distance to really know for sure. He has paper figures.
(Eric is a great guy btw)
[quote]"Lapua'ed" Agreed.....that bullet has had the tar tested out of it....maybe more than any other bullet out there. One thing that I believe is bullet flight characteristics can and will vary from rifle to rifle, even if the muzzle velocity is the same...rate of spin, depth of lands and grooves, bore diameters, etc. can change the dynamics of the bullet. Its really important to test each range, real world, instead of relying on a computer generated range card...for me that represents a good starting point, but finalization ends in the field/range.
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Pat - what scope are you running on your 338LM? Greg, Thats a 5-25X56 S&B PMII Mil/Mil P3 reticle.
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