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Nice looking pistol. I am just starting to reload for my 44's. Loaded up some xtp's with w-296 and next want to try some Titegroup lighter loads. You use titegroup?
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8.5 grains Unique with 240/250 grain cast SWC loads for light loads.
10 grains Unique with 240/250 grain cast SWC loads for mid level/everyday loads. These will work perfect for Idaho Mule deer.
22.5 grains H110 with 300 to 320 grain cast SWC loads for anything heavy, such as elk or dinosaurs.
Those three loads will do pretty much everything you will ever need to do with a .44.
In reality, 95% of all your needs can be met with the mid level, 10 grain Unique load.
The 8.5 grain load is a good one to work on pure marksmanship fundamentals without worrying too much about recoil.
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Mine are close to those, here they are and how I rate them, all are accurate
5grs Bullseye + 240-250 cast - easy shooting, great plinker
10.0grs Unqiue + 240-250 cast - good hunting load for around here
21.0grs H110 + 310 WFNGC - holy f, I'm being charged by a Killer Whale
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Thanks. I loaded up 50 rounds of 296 23 gr and tomorrow will try some TG.
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Since you are from Pocatello, I would suggest sticking with 10 grains Unique and a cast semi wadcutter. They work well on Bengal tigers!
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Mackay is about right on. Here's my 629 Mountain Gun and some 300 gr Beartooth bullets WFNGC slugs. I load them with a hefty charge of H-110 and let me tell you...with that light barrel, it gets your attention! a closer view of the Bear thumpers....
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After a few cylinders of those through a lightweight gun, I want to go put a bag of ice on my wrist to slow the swelling.
I trashed my right wrist riding bucking horses in college and do not shoot the heavy loads too much.
Moderation being a good thing here.
I dig the pics!
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After a few cylinders of those through a lightweight gun, I want to go put a bag of ice on my wrist to slow the swelling.
I trashed my right wrist riding bucking horses in college and do not shoot the heavy loads too much.
Moderation being a good thing here.
I dig the pics!
No flame intended here, but why do y'all insist on shooting such heavy bullets, especially in the Smith and double-especially in the Mountain Gun version? It would seem that factory 240's would be much easier on the wrists. Heck, the 44-40 made do with 200 grains for much of its existence. Going lighter instead of heavier would seem best.
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No worry about the flames! I do shoot some heavy bullets. That being said, only a very small percentage of the rounds fired through my Smiths are heavy loads. The vast majority are the 8.5 and 10 grain Unique loads. I doubt I shoot more tha 5% heavies. There is no need. I do not shoot at large criiers all that much as compared to smaller ones. 10 grains of Unique with a cast bullet will do more damage to animals than most would think. This boar took one single round through the shoulder (which I am told is a bad place to hit them) and expired quickly. You can see the grey smear where the bullet entered. The load was 10 grains Unique with a 240 grain Lasercast SWC.
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Mackay...did you bust that pig in Idaho???
Bob
If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....
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No worry about the flames! I do shoot some heavy bullets. That being said, only a very small percentage of the rounds fired through my Smiths are heavy loads. The vast majority are the 8.5 and 10 grain Unique loads. I doubt I shoot more tha 5% heavies. There is no need. I do not shoot at large criiers all that much as compared to smaller ones. 10 grains of Unique with a cast bullet will do more damage to animals than most would think. This boar took one single round through the shoulder (which I am told is a bad place to hit them) and expired quickly. You can see the grey smear where the bullet entered. The load was 10 grains Unique with a 240 grain Lasercast SWC. I think you're pretty much understanding my question, but just for the sake of clarity, I wasn't talking about heavy loads. I'm pretty much on record as not favoring anything that is over max levels in the reloading manuals, for sure. I haven't seen you going for overloads though. I'm talking about the heavy bullets specifically. It seems like ultra-heavy bullets are all the rage. The frontal area is no wider. Is there really much that a 300 grainer can do over a 240?
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Momentum, Cole. All things being equal (nose shape, meplat size, bullet hardness), the 300 should handily out penetrate the 240. How much is enough -- if you get an exit on the animal, you certainly have enough......
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I understand your point Cole, but as Mack already explained, I don't shoot them often out of thst gun. In fact I DO have some 250 gr WFNGC's from Beartooth as well. I usually shoot them out of my .44 Spl and the mag as hunting loads. My everyday load is the 250 gr Keith style SWC hardcast over 10 gr Unique for the 629 and my FA 97 gets fed the same bullet over 7.5 gr of Unique......... Fact is I'm headed to Alaska next week for a spring bear hunt and wanted the 300 grainers for that reason. More momentum is mo better in that regard....
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Thanks for the replies and input. Adds to my understanding.
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8.5 grains Unique with 240/250 grain cast SWC loads for light loads.
10 grains Unique with 240/250 grain cast SWC loads for mid level/everyday loads. These will work perfect for Idaho Mule deer.
22.5 grains H110 with 300 to 320 grain cast SWC loads for anything heavy, such as elk or dinosaurs.
Those three loads will do pretty much everything you will ever need to do with a .44.
In reality, 95% of all your needs can be met with the mid level, 10 grain Unique load.
The 8.5 grain load is a good one to work on pure marksmanship fundamentals without worrying too much about recoil. Mackay, What primers are you using with these loads?
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Mackay...did you bust that pig in Idaho???
Bob Yep, It was on a guys ranch. Not feral. We do now have some feral ones though. I was home on break from the war in December 06 and only had a few weeks home and had missed deer and elk season so I figured I would go pop a porker. My dad and I each popped one. Fast little guys.
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Armen, I set back a fair amount of primers a few years back, mostly CCI, when things were looking scarce in the reloading component arena ,so that is what I am using right now. I have used quite a few Winchester too though. I have never really noticed much difference. My loads are not riding any ragged edges, so switching back and forth between primer manufacturers has never caused any issues for me. Sane loads are easy on me and my guns!
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Thanks Mackay.
Are you using magnum primers for the H110 load and standard large pistol primers with the Unique loads? Or, just magnum primers for all loads?
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I use standard primers for everything. Though the Winchester primers state that they are for standard or magnum loads.
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Well here are two 44's of mine and a Vaquero 357. Sorry it is a little blurry! SRH, SBH, and Vaquero
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