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I would like to have a ruger #1, 26" barrel in Tropical configuration in 300H&H. My gunsmith has rechambered non-mag #1s and knows how to do this. I wonder two things: First, it's my understanding that most accuracy problems is do to forearm pressure. If I buy a 30-06 and it shoots well, if I rechamber, will it probably shoot well also? secondly, how easy is it to attach tropical sights, barrelband swivle and forearm to the #1b? thanks, capt david <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Capt David,

You have some serious issues here. First and foremost. You need to define exactly what you want.

You have indidcated that you want the Tropical Rifle. That is cataloged as the 1-H. Only available in .375 H&H, .416 Remminton, .416 Rigby and .458 Win. I can't imagine that anyone would want a rifle with a barrel that heavy in .300 H&H.

I suspect that what you meant was the 1-S, Medium rifle. This is the same as the 1-B with the exception of an Alexander Henry forend and bbl-band sling swivel and the addition of iron sights. Ruger at one time made a limited run of these in .300 H&H. However they only made 50 or 60, so finding one would be next to impossible. Ruger's 1-S was cataloged in 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, .338 Win Mag, .45-70, and .218 Bee. Your best bet would be to find one of the ones in the mag chambering and have it rebarreled. Any good gunsmith could remove the iron sights from the barrel and the barrel band and re-install them on another barrel. Or you could buy a .218 bee and have it bored and re-rifled.

It might be possible to buy a Ruger 1-B in .30-06 and send it back to ruger for a change in the forend and barrel band and sights. But I would caution you not to have it rechambered before you send it in. Ruger will not release #1s in any chambering other than the original. So if you send in a rebarreled #1 when you get it back it will be in the original chambering.

Ken Waters wrote that he had taken his #1-B in .280 back to the factory and they had done exactly that. But I suspect that he has more "pull" with them than you or I. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Last time I checked with them, jsut a forend was about $90 from them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> So any way you go will be expensive. Only you can decide if it's worth it. Hope this helps...the9.3Guy


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I have had a .30-06 1B rechambered to .300 H&H and it worked out fine. The barrel band looks a litttle more classic but it is not functionally required with that round.

None of the S #1s but the 218 B are viable for your project. They are too big to "clean up" in rechamber job. The .30-06 was just doable.

The .218 B S would have to be rebored and rechambered and have a magnum extractor added. I have seen one S .218 B that was made into a .35 Whelen. Very nice job, but the price was out of sight for me and the wood was very ho-hum. I think that they discontinued the .218 B in the S, so finding a new one as a donor could be tough.

Ruger will not sell an AH stock set for a rifle originally barreled for a B or any other model. If the AH stock is a must, yopu can use the S in .218 B, or, you face a custom stock order. These are the only options I know of.

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I'm under the impression, from my gunsmith that he can re chamber the 30-06 or 308 to 300H&H. In doing this he has to remove the barrel and rib. after that I'll replace it with new forearm, swivels and sights. Maybe I confuse you guys. what I'm asking is about accuracy. If it shoots acceptblly in one of those calibers, will it shoot OK when the chamberis changed? Are Ruger accuracy problems more barrel, or forearm pressure related? I want the 26" barrel. capt david.


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Well.... Irregardless of the fact of where you are going to get a forend....

In taking accuracy into consideration, I would say it's more a barrel issue than a forend issue. Because the fore-end mounts on a hanger and not on the barrel. But just because a given rifle is accurate in a given chambering, that doesn't insure that it will remain that way once the barrel harmonics are changed. (And rechambering WILL change the harmonics!) Good or bad? Who knows? You just have to try it and find out. And we all know that barrel harmonics and accuracy go hand in hand.

But the good news is: You can always install the Hicks Accurizer. I have never resorted to it, but I've heard that it works. So at any rate, the potential is there.

I do hope that answers your question. ...the9.3Guy


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The 1-S has the Henry style forearm and barrel-band. They USED to chamber that in a number of different calibers. I have a 7mm rem mag so configured. So its not a silly question.

On the other hand, accuracy is always a gamble. I wouldn't change something like that if I already had a good shooter -- only if it did NOT shoot would I take such a risk.

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For the wood side of things I would speak with the gentleman who runs Treebone Carving

www.treebonecarving.com

And for building any thin on a #1 talk with John Lewis at Carolina Precision

www.cprifles.com

Both outfits are great to deal with


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