I didn't have the buck aged (Swampy would have said it was 20 years old though) but this was a natural, non fenced deer in a non agricultural area. No feeders, no food plots, no licks, just big woods. 245# dressed is even rather large here but they do get bigger. If it wasn't mature it was darn close.
These deer are not hunted heavily so that may play into it but I still don't hear a thing when I draw my bow with a WB.
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LIke I said, works for you whose to say. And we tend to use what we know works.
As I've said I"m a close range hunter. Yes I hunt feeders at times, but generally I"m set up on trails these days and set up such that I have short range, not 30-40 yard shots. You can get away with things at 20-40 yards. You can't get away with a lot where I prefer to shoot which is 15 and less. Typically I"m under 10 yards. Last buck I killed rubbed on the tree I had my quiver on, and I had to grab it before he knocked it out and on top of him... I had to let him move down the trail a bit further before I could get a shot... less than 10 yards.
Kinda like does a 223 or 243 or 06 or 300 mag work on deer.. the answer is yes and no.
245 dressed must be meaning 300 something live. I'm not arguing age, just saying weight and points don't mean anything sometimes. Weight certainly meaning more than points. Used to laugh when folks thought a 14 point was 14 years old.....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
BTW, for the WB fans, how many animals have you taken with a WB? Just trying to see if its a long run of say 100 animals or so, or just say 10. That will answer some questions too.... At 10 animals in I thought I knew bowhunting. Boy was I WRONG.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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If you are stalking game through high grass, brush, on your hands and knees or belly crawling with your bow, a fall away or prong style rest is useless.
Not all bow hunting is done standing in a tree.
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If I am stalking I don't need to knock an arrow until I intend to draw. Like I have said before WB's work but that doesn't make them good! I don't think anyone on here is saying they don't work. Just that there are better options out there. If you like a WB and it gives you more confidence that is great.
If I am stalking I don't need to knock an arrow until I intend to draw.
When you are moving up on a bugling elk or trying to stalk an antelope with a decoy you wait until you are ready to draw to knock an arrow?
Whatev. It's your deal.
If I were shooting 3D on weekends and spending my hunting season standing in a tree I wouldn't be using a WB either.
Just sayin'
Yes when I stalked the to Prong horn I shot in WY I knocked my arrow 37 yards from the speed goat on the first one and 42 yards on the second. On my last elk I was 30 yards he bugled I knocked the arrow he turned I drew he turned back and looked right at me as I released the arrow. He never knew what hit him or that I was there, took three maybe four steps and fell over.
I see. Didn't realize no one stalked game unti Whisker Biscut came a long.
As shown my drop away rest basically makes it impossible for the arrow to be removed from the rest without tripping the rest (easy to do). In essence it does everything a WB does (which is basically just make it impossible for an arrow to come off) without having full contact on the shaft. IMO it's a heck of a lot easier to shoot consistantly when I don't have 500 different brushes hitting my arrow shaft for the full length of the shaft at release. Those same 500 brushes may or may not grip the next arrow the same.
If you like em - great, no skin off my nose but the OP asked opinions. I gave mine and will do so again. No advantage over a well designed fall away, and they have a disadvantage the fall away doesn't have. Thus I don't use em. YMMV
Here's my 2 cents worth. I have been shooting a whisker biscuit for about the last 5 years. I used to shoot the old 2 prong rest (can't remember what it was called) but I shot with it for some 20 plus years. I like to keep things simple and try to think ahead of what possibly might go wrong before I get into the woods. The drop away rests looked interesting but I never bought or tried one due to the way they are lifted when drawing. I hunt alot and can imagine getting ready for a shot and finding the string that lifts the rest had caught on some branch or twig and the rest no longer functions. Much like the rubber on a peep sight. I have had no problems with the whisker biscuit and find it works well for me. I also lightly sand (0000 steel wool) and wax my carbon arrows before I hunt. Cuts down friction and noise. I guess it's like rifles/calibers etc. if it's working for you and it ain't broke don't fix it. Tom.
I have noting against drop or push away rest other than they are to expensive for the little benefit you might gain from using one., plus most people don't shoot good enough to see the difference in their shooting regardless of the rest they have on their bow. I like the Whisker Biscuit and it has never spooked a animal as of today , maybe in the future and it has worked every time. If the Whisker Biscuit had been around 200 years back it would have made shooting Bison from horse back much easier for the Indians
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
That is pretty funny. First I hunt very wild state land deer. They see every movement, they hear every sound, and they spook at the drop of a pin. Have never had any issues keeping my bow at the ready with arrow. I hunt both release and fingers. I use a luancher blade and Flipper with a plunger and have not a single issue with keeping the arrow on it. I don't read in the stand or do anything other then hunt. But you can sell whatever BS you want, I am not buying any.
MCH,
From your reply, it sounds like I insulted you. I sincerely apologize to you, sir. I meant no disrespect. Please forgive me.
However misguided the wording, I am genuinely curious how the fallaway rest works and retains an arrow with the bow laying on it's side.
Actually, I cannot shoot as accurately with the WB as with other shoot-through rests. Before the WB came out I used dual prong rests, one favorite being the Quick-Tune. To keep the arrow on the rest I used a device called a Sta-Put. It is a little rubber flipper that rests against the top of the arrow to hold it in place on the prongs. When the arrow is released, the Sta-Put flips forward-and-upward out of the way. They work pretty good, but not as foolproof and simple to setup as the WB.
Our God reigns. Harrumph!!! I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.
You didn't insult me. I think it is pretty funny that everyone thinks their deer are harder to kill then the next guys. Actually there is some merit to it but not nearly as much as guys think. I have been lucky enough to hunt deer and other game all over America.
I don't shoot a drop away rest either so I am not defending them either. They are however a step above a WB in my opinion.
As I stated earlier I use a launcher blade or prongs on my release bow and a Flipper rest with plunger on my finger bow.
Nobody can shoot as accurately with a WB because there is just to much contact with the arrow. Which is exactly why a WB isn't a good product. I know it is a hard concept to grasp for some on here. I personally just don't see any reason to shoot a WB.
Come on now,a 14 pt. 245 lb. dressed buck is just a baby, probably still had spots. I like my WB, but then again I'm lucky enough to only hunt dumb deer.
Still toying with getting one. They are cheap so if it doesn't work, no biggie. I like the simplicity of them. I am going on a remote elk hunt this fall, would be nice not to have bells and whistles all over my bow. I don't even shoot a peep though, I like to keep it basic.
