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You're really the best economy specialist in the world Swampy, as good as with firearms and bullssshit, sorry i was thinking bullets...Go to the Marlin or H&R web site they write they belong to freedom group not Remington....
Dom, Swampy is an expert "Fouteuse de Merde" ..glad to see he is providing entertainment on both sides of the atlantic
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It's just really hard to tell what the Nosler BT is going to do. One day a diamond, one day a stone. I'll take a Core-Lokt or a Sierra Gameking...thanks. Guess the DOD is really ignorant as to what works then..seems to me the boat tail design must just be a fluke!!
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Nothing wrong with a boat tail design. It's the plastic nose.
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If anything, the plastic nose insert promotes expansion.
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The Nosler BTs may as well be stainless steel. Same size in and out. Wow. I'd call you a troll, but that'd be unfair to trolls.
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I shot a fox once, just after it had pulled a vole out of its tunnel beneath the snow. It was standing about 50 -75 yards away looking straight at me with the vole in its mouth. The 225 NBT I fired was pushed by a compressed load of 748 which broke 2300 fps by the barest of margins near the muzzle. I found the rodent's head 5-10 yards away from the scene to one side. The tail, etc, was the same distance away the other direction. As well, there were greater quantities of fox bits and kibbles in an equally wide arc. There was no mistaking what that bullet did. OTOH, I shot a good-sized bull caribou once, perhaps close to 100 yards away. It was a simple broadside, side-to-side rib/lung shot. The animal immediately did the "dog nap" thing (making a few quick circles before lying down.) The 100 NBT fired from the 25-06 pencilled its way through both sides. The difference between exit and entrance were indiscernable. Perhaps it wasn't surprising however; that animal didn't have lungs. As near as I could tell, it was one of those creatures which does its air exchange via strawberry smoothy.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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140 NAB and H-414/W760 O to be about perfect.
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If anything, the plastic nose insert promotes expansion. That was the claim. It's more like sometimes it promotes expansion.
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So how many critters did you shoot with NBT's Swampy to come to that determination?
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oldelkhunter - you are the voice of wisdom and experience here. Never, ever, load a round with the pointy end backwards...really hard to chamber that way and even harder to fire them! LOL. Regards, Homesteader
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I've shot NBTs into a decent variety and quantity of animals, both large and small, and "sometimes" is not how I'd quantify their expansion properties. I'm still sticking with the plain-jane 139 IL-SP as a perfect choice for the great 7mm-08. If the 7-08 doesn't work for you, "it" is not the reason. (That would kind of be like saying the 7 Mauser can't be trusted.)
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Have used 139 Hornady, 140 Accubond both with h-4350 with good results. Rifle likes the 120 bt's real well with varget but I haven't shot deer with it [yet]. Remington 700 SPS stainless. Im not sure what size groups youre getting with the H4350, but if you happen to have any Varget or RE15 lying around, Id try one or both of those with the Accubond and 139 Hor. I load anywhere from 40.5-41grs of Varget with the Hornady in a couple of buddies rifles and it plain rocks. Ive loaded H4350 and wasnt impressed.
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So how many critters did you shoot with NBT's Swampy to come to that determination? Same number of 1/2 moa groups he's shot..........none.
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The Nosler BTs may as well be stainless steel. Same size in and out. This takes 1st place in the dumbphuck awards.... Rick puts Stick on the one post per 24 hour ban and this dumphuck gets to pizz stupidity all over the place.... priceless!
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The Nosler BTs may as well be stainless steel. Same size in and out. This takes 1st place in the dumbphuck awards.... Rick puts Stick on the one post per 24 hour ban and this dumphuck gets to pizz stupidity all over the place.... priceless! +1000 .. Swampy would be the perennial winner of the dumbphuckitude EMMY award .
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Did try Varget with both of the heavier bullets, but I got bet ter groups with the H4350. The Accubonds grouped the best with the 4350 [under one inch,5 shots]. May have to try some re-15 just for fun. Got better groups with the varget and 120 bt's, might have to try those on a deer this year as I hear good things about them and the rifle likes them. Thanks, Stan
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120 BT's from a. 280AI kill like lightning.....
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If Swampy sez it, it must be true ..... he read it on the Internet!
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The Nosler BTs may as well be stainless steel. Same size in and out. This takes 1st place in the dumbphuck awards.... Rick puts Stick on the one post per 24 hour ban and this dumphuck gets to pizz stupidity all over the place.... priceless! Runs a close second to " goodiewrench" Karen/bossLady/ OldJerk."
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140 NAB and H-414/W760 O to be about perfect.
Gunner H4350 is what works for me with the 140 NBT/NAB. Guys... Swampy is playin' youse like fishes...
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