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Based on my personal experience, I agree with S&W.

Wow, so what would you say to all Campfire members who have reported trigger lock ups, or those who have removed the locks?

I don't own any revolvers with a lock, but if I did, I would remove it for the same reason I am considering replacing my 700's trigger. Can't say with any degree of certainty whether or not it is truth or myth.

I think Savage may have something to say about that.

FWIW, Mike Walker doesn't even try to defend his trigger.

I sure wouldn't want to be Remington's defense counsel with that as expert testimony......

This is the problem they have.....what is an "expert" gonna say? I don't see any posting here...so far.

They used to in the 60's They have to catchup with Tikka and Sako nowadays and they are far behind the curve.

Correct....Remington is not exculpated where you have bad gun handling and a defective design,both of which may have contributed to the injury.....there is the comparative or contributory negligence issue at work....and/or statutes that may govern under product liability theories.

Unbelievable some of these responses that are pro "Walker Trigger"...why is it that they completely redesigned their trigger then?

Because the customer asked for a better trigger pull. I wish they'd kept the Walker trigger.

oldelkhunter:Simple...

Because gun owners get emotional about their firearms, have a hard time admitting that some things don't work particularly well,especially when it comes to their "pet",and will spare no effort in defending it in the face of sometimes overwhelming evidence.

They also want to believe that factories and manufacturers will not sell them something faulty.....we should know better by now....

It is pretty common knowledge that some manufacturers will continuously do a "cost/benefit" analysis, and weigh the risk of continuing to sell less reliable (faulty?) product(and the profit derived therefrom)againt the infrequent exposure to liability they might incur,ie, in the long run, it is "cheaper" to continue to a hawk an 80% reliable item(and risk the exposure), than to spend the money to make it a 98% reliable item.

I'm not implying this is true of Remington,but the existence of this rationale is too well established to deny it exists with manufactured items.....

This leads to the inalterable conclusion that, generally, you get what you may for....a fundamental rule of economics, that is irrefutable.

Rant over....

He also may be taking the road with fewer potholes.

Only he knows.

He's getting paid to do the interview. He'll say whatever they pay him to say.

Sounds okay, but how many deaths by supposedly faulty remington triggers happened 2 or 3 miles away from the rifle?

How do you know he was paid, or are you guessing again?

Probably none, but that wasn't the point.

Addition: Read Bob's reply. He said it better than I.

The same reason Toyota recalled cars for "sticky" gas pedals. Nothing is idiot proof and when you have deep pockets, unscrupulous types line up to get in them.

Hmm, I guess Winchester shooters are just smarter, none of them seem to have a problem keeping their fingers off the trigger..

I read an article by a very well known writer about the Model 700s in which he stated he'd never had an AD with a 700, but all his ADs were with other brands.

Who, when and where?

Plaintiff attorney I'm not. Defense attorney I'm not. Trial expert I'm not. But I've seen what plaintiff attorneys do to make money and I've seen what trial experts will say for money.

Unfortunately in situations that cause a death, the guy/gal that was holding the rifle is the only one that knows what happened. Typically there were no witnesses that were constantly keeping an eye on whoever is holding the rifle that AD'd and killed somebody. So what's the easier way out? Lying and saying that the gun went off by itself? Or fessing up to having the business end of your barrel pointed somewhere that it wasn't supposed to be and at the same time having your finger on the trigger while the rifle was ready to fire?

I don't believe that factory Remington Model 700's that have not been monkeyed with just fire all by themselves. It's maybe an accident caused by plain human stupidity and/or carelessness. But guns don't kill people.

ETA: Put me on that jury, please!