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Ya, that's an interesting one.

The 225 Partition has been working great for me and I've got enough loaded to last a looong time, thinking I'll resist the temptation <g>. My .358 is one of my few rifles on "lockdown"; I don't mess with things too much. Just go kill deer with it.

I can't complain about the 225NPT. I am shooting it in front of 48 or 49g of TAC. Its accurate and I still have something like 18 bags of seconds( and one box of firsts). I will likely be taking it on my moose hunt this September.

Thanks for that pic Thumper..!

I am VERY pleased that Barnes is doing that 180 TTSX .

Classics ? How about a 35-375 Griffin & Howe (built on 375 H&H case) in a real magnum Mauser ? Written up in Pet Loads. No slouch and today even better.
Room for 310 gr Woodleighs, serious "anything in North America" rifle for sure.

Is the bullet available on it's own? Cannot find it listed anywhere including Barne's web site. I have nearly a thousand 358 cases don't need to buy loaded ammo. I have been shooting 200 grain hornady and 200 grain TSX. But damn that 180 would really turn the 358 into a flat shooter.

I kept hoping that Remington would chamber the 700 Classic
in 358 Win, but it never happened.

Having all those 2nds is a great thing! Have you priced those 225's lately?!

I've carried mine a few times elk hunting, but never got to stick an elk with one of those NP's. I did manage to stop one in a spike buck last year; that surprised me! A quartering-away shot and it kind of "rode the spine" for a while there.

Tell you what, a fully-expanded .35 cal Partition with the front end all torn up and jagged is a BRUTAL-looking thing. That gonna leave a mark, as they say.

Not sure if they are available yet. I can't find any, but that doesn't mean that they might not be out there somewhere. If anyone wants to call Barnes and let us know that would be sweet. I haven't given them a test drive yet, but the 200 TSX shoots darn near bug holes so it's gotta at least match the accuracy of that bullet for me to change over. Funny enough my gun loves the 250 RN too. The rest of 'em are just for Sh*ts and giggles.

Me too and when I lost hope I had one built from an old TI. And of course when I sent the build away to the smith Ruger announces they are making one, then Kimber comes out with the 338 Fed. Still glad I have it on a 700 though.

I emailed Barnes about the 180 grain. This was the response.

"We do make the .358cal 180gr TTSX. As of right now it is only produced to be loaded into the VOR-TX and Double-Tap, and not available as a reloading component."

That sucks. Could never figure why a bullet company would do this. They could easily make a bunch more money. Sure they make more money on loaded ammo. But they are losing a lot of sales of reloaders that refuse to buy factory ammo. Oh well I am sure hornady appreciates my business.

Well thanks for inquiring about that bullet Mike.

Maybe a few hundred phone calls in to Ty would help them see the light.

Ever seen Barnes was bought out I have not been able to get through to TY. I have tried his direct email never have the time to call during business hours I have gotten no response to emails.Did not try his email this last time as I have misplaced it. Seems like all email inquires are going to a central customer service center now. In the past I would email and Ty would respond with a several paragraph if not page response. Now it is just a sentence or two from some customer service rep. I am hoping we will see the bullet soon as I would think the hold up is loading data. The factory loads are probable using a powder not available to reloaders.

Thanks for the info!

The 350 rigby has a powder capacity almost identical to the 358 Norma Mag.

My first 35 was a 35 whelen ackley on VZ-24. The friend of a friend who chambered it didn't do such a hot job, and it would only group when pushed too hard. I was offered the loan of a 350 Rigby reamer, and a real gunsmith did a clean up on the action, opened the bolt, rechambered the barrel and recrowned it for a modest $100.

With that 24" 1-14" barrel it would group three hornady 250 gr rn under 1" when loaded with 66gr of varget for 2700 even at the chrono. Spitzers would group 1" and change for 3 with the same load. I tried H-4350, but groups were a bit larger with the same velocity. The hornady rn is really too soft for those speeds, one nearly decapitated a small doe I neck shot at 10 paces.

But after a week long hunt on Montague Island, I concluded the gun was too heavy, blued steel isn't the best for salt spray, and bouncing around an inflatable will ding up a wood stock. Not to mention Bertram brass is soft crap brass, and forming 350 rigby cases from 375 H&H brass isn't the easiest task as you have to lathe turn each case to cut off the belt, cut down the rim, and deepen the extractor groove. That and a full length pass doesn't always set the 45 deg shoulder all the way back. If you don't set the shoulder back on the first pass, you won't set it back by running it through the die again. I'd say the 358 Norma is a much more practical round, doesn't need a true magnum length actionm, an oddball bolt/extractor, and brass can be easily formed from 338 win mag cases.

I replaced it with a ruger all weather 350 rem mag, I give up 25 gr of bullet for the same velocity, recoil is tollerable, and ruger allweathers are one of the best utility rifles made. Turns out my first handloads ended my load development, 59 gr Varget under a 225 sierra also shoot sub moa for three, good enough for a hunting rifle.

I'll play

some marlins in 35 Rem..336a and sc, and a Rem 141
Whelens in Ruger 77rs boat paddle stock (limited run?), 700 classics, and a rebored 760 from Barsness, and a rebored Savage 110 that was a heavy barrel 06

358 in Savage 99, 2 Hawkeyes, and a nib Ruger frontier

I may be forgetting something, or I may be an addict...Helllppp

Found a pic of the 350 before I sold it

Anyone have a 358 Norma? Sounds like a great round

I have a 358 Norma Mag and love it. The rifle I have is one of my favorites and that cartridge is, too. Just something about a 358 Norma Mag that I love!



Though, it has been sitting in the safe for close to two years as I've been doing all my hunting and killing with a 300 Ultra, but that's gonna change this fall.

Rifle has a 26" tube on a classic model 70 action and shoots 225-grain Swift A-Frames at over 3000fps and recoils less than a 338 Win. Mag. shooting the same bullet at slower speeds...

Quality Cartridge is making 350 Rigby brass, much better than Bertram! That is the route I a going. I like the 358 Norma and actually, had one...I just like the mystic of the Rigby!

Wow...

Bearstalker Again, pic and report.

Having launched that same 224 A-Frame at 2930 fps outta my 358-WSM into a north bound Bull Moose, I can testify to the effectiveness of the 358 Normas' level of performance.