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Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Originally Posted by wildhobbybobby
My .340 has been around the world and is the last big game rifle I would ever part with. It's accurate, flat shooting and powerful. It's has the trajectory of a .270 and the punch of a .375 as far as I am concerned.

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I bet it way overpenetrated on that 'yote.


Im surprised it didnt bounce off like a .270 !


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My best hunting buddy has a Sako in 338 that is Magna Ported and I bought one of the first KDF brakes for my 340 when they first came out.

The Magna Porting does help with muzzle jump I think but the KDF took ten years of high frequency hearing away from me when I first used it back in the days before good hearing protection. I took it off and haven't used it since. The muzzle blast was atrocious.

Both require good hearing protection IMHO and a warning for a guide or bystander.

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
One place I don't have much experience with the 375's is the 250's and speeds. I have used the combo with a 250 Sierra to take elk but I don't think the load was close to hitting 2900.

Guess what I'm getting at is a question for Bob and others is do you feel that most 23-24" 375's can get a 250-260 bullet to the 2900 range? I've always considered a bit over 2800 to be the max but I may well be a bit out of touch about it. (nice way of saving face and say that I have no friggin idea...grin)


Not sure about 2900 from an H&H with a 23-24" barrel. If guys say that's what they are getting I am not about to doubt their integrity. The "without any trouble" part makes me scratch my head a bit.

I run (almost exclusively) 250 gr. SGK's in my .375 Wby. It is a 26" gun. I get 3060 fps and, although I don't know how much faster I can safely go, I know it isn't a whole lot.

I would think that 2900 from an H&H with a short barrel has to be pushing the envelope.

I will also concur with the "fast and hard" recoil impulse from rifles of this class, mentioned by others. At 8.5 lbs scoped and loaded, my .375 Bee is a fairly vigorous old gal.


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Originally Posted by guyandarifle
Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Cause I hold a rifle very light, and tend to be a stock crawler for me mag na port works very well with rounds like this.

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It is my understanding that porting of most any kind (mag na/brake) becomes more efficacious as velocity increases, right? If that's the case is would make sense that the .340 would benefit from such things.

Having said that my .340 throws a pretty big party at the muzzle when fired as is so I'd have to imagine a brake, while it might make a substantial difference in recoil, would be nigh intolerable. I just don't dig brakes. I've never shot a Mag Na ported anything (though my .500 S&W seems to have a similar top muzzle vent but still no rifle) so I was wondering what the blast was like compared to a brake?


Good Question.
I was doing a muzzle break review about 20 years ago when I sent a couple of rifles off for Magnaporting. When the .340 came back I noticed two things:

1. The advertising was correct and verifyable.
2. The muzzle stayed considerably straighter with minimal lift and the sensations of recoil was considerably reduced. As I owned both .338 and .338/378 Wildcat at that time, I was able to make direct comparisons before and after.

These comparisons lead me to unload the .338 because it offered no advantage over the ported .340, and also the .338/378 because I could not detect any difference whatsoever in the field, which also negated any justification for the heavier recoil, extra powder, more expensive cases and increased rifle weight of the .338/378.

If there is a point 3, there was no difference in chronographed loads before and after porting.

If there is a point 4, There was no perception of increased muzzle blast for the user which coaligns with the advertising.

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Helped a guy sight one in. It was a Weatherby with a muzzle break. They kick some but IMO the muzzle blast/noise was worse than the recoil. The good part, other than getting it sighted in and putting it away, was having an open bench on either side to use for a spotting scope and other range equipment. He had been using a 7Mag for elk and went back to it the next year.

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