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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

The muzzle velocity on Waynes rifle with the factory ammo was 2975fps (26 inch barrel) and the real G1 BC of the 129 SST is 0.460.

1248 Ft/Lbs at 600yds and 2087fps retained velocity.


If I set the altitude to 6000 feet I do get numbers similar to yours.


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Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Originally Posted by JohnBurns

The muzzle velocity on Waynes rifle with the factory ammo was 2975fps (26 inch barrel) and the real G1 BC of the 129 SST is 0.460.

1248 Ft/Lbs at 600yds and 2087fps retained velocity.


If I set the altitude to 6000 feet I do get numbers similar to yours.


We were at 7500ft and it was 50 degs. smile

The conditions play a pretty big part in retained velocity and energy.


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Ok, so where are we at here? I can't wade thru 12 pages of discussion and fighting. Is it a viable elk cartridge at, let's say 400 yards? I take it that it has excellent accuracy potential
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Well ok. the 250-3000,250sav,22-250? yes I have taken elk with these rounds. The Creedmoor is just a 6.5 mm .

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A crap just trying to say that it is or was a varmint round.

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Ok, so where are we at here? I can't wade thru 12 pages of discussion and fighting. Is it a viable elk cartridge at, let's say 400 yards? I take it that it has excellent accuracy potential
too?


With the disclaimer that I never used it,common sense says "yes",it'll kill elk if the rifleman uses good bullets, and places them properly. smile




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Well ok. the 250-3000,250sav,22-250? yes I have taken elk with these rounds. The Creedmoor is just a 6.5 mm .


So is my 6.5-06AI. Tonight I loaded up another 50 fire-form loads, 140g A-MAX over 49.2g H4831SC for around 2760fps. At 600 yards, 7500 feet and 50 degrees it still has a calculated velocity of 2087fps with 1354fpe. Same conditions with a 130g Scirocco II at 3161fps and it retains a calculated 2412fps and 1679fpe. I don't plan to use that load for elk, but I bet one in the lungs would do the job with either load.

When I built the rifle I told my brother it was my "600 yard clay pigeon shooter". It is, and very easy on the shoulder, too.


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Ahhhh, finally something useful here!

Coyote Hunter, I'm working on loads for my 6.5-06 AI and the S-II, what's your load for the bullet to get 3100+?? How accurate is that load for you?

I'm thinking that'll be a great elk load, but then I only plan on shooting out to 550.



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Smokepole if you go back to page 4 on this thread you will see that Wayne said that he can get a 140gr bullet to 3300fps from a 26" barrel in the 264 wm so I should be at 3400 with my 30" barrel. So plug them numbers in at 1000 yrds and 7500 elev and see where you are at.

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Originally Posted by smokepole
Ahhhh, finally something useful here!

Coyote Hunter, I'm working on loads for my 6.5-06 AI and the S-II, what's your load for the bullet to get 3100+?? How accurate is that load for you?

I'm thinking that'll be a great elk load, but then I only plan on shooting out to 550.


The load worked on an unlucky doe antelope but I haven't had an opportunity to try it on anything larger. Don't know if it will ever hunt elk unless close to the road as it is, by intent, a fairly heavy rifle even with the fluted barrel.

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58.5g IMR 7828SSC
130g Scirocco II
3161fps


Fireform loads are the same brass and primer but 49.0g or slightly over H4831SC with 140g A-MAX for 2750fps. My girls love these loads, as do I - they are wicked accurate at 600 and very easy on the shoulder.


Here are some pics taken before the scope was mounted:

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Thanks CH, but the pics aren't showing for me.



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smokepole -

Don't know what to say - they show up for me on two different systems.


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Had the 6.5-06AI, .280 Rem and .338 Win Mag at the range today. The wind wasn't helpful and hitting clay pigeons at 600 eluded me. The steel at 600 not so much, even with the slow-poke 6.5-06AI fire-form loads.


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