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Police from three jurisdictions - West Allis, Milwaukee and Wisconsin State Fair police - spent Friday morning piecing together a series of incidents late Thursday night at the Wisconsin State Fair in which large groups of youths rampaged through the Midway and outside the grounds after closing.

Officials could not say what started what witnesses said was a series of racially charged incidents that apparently began as early as 7 p.m. in the Midway. The Midway is located just east of the Pettit National Ice Center and adjacent to the Hank Aaron Bike Trail.

Milwaukee police confirmed there were assaults outside the fair as the fair was closing down. The fair closes at 11 p.m.

Witnesses told WTMJ-AM (Radio 620) that dozens to hundreds of young blacks were beating white people as they left the fair late Thursday night. Patrice Harris, a Fair spokeswoman, said a police alert she was given indicated four people were hurt.

"It looked like they were just going after white guys, white people," Norb Roffers of Wind Lake told WTMJ-AM. He said he left the State Fair entrance near the corner of S. 84th Street and W. Schlinger Avenue in West Allis.

One eyewitness, a concession worker who works near the Midway area, told the Journal Sentinel that large groups of African-American youths ran through the Midway area, knocking over young children and adults, disrupting Midway rides and tearing signs up.

"I have never seen anything like it," the worker said. "It was mob mentality."

The concession worker said the incidents began at 7 p.m. "All of a sudden a wave of kids were running through the Midway," he said.

The worker said there was police, including officers on horseback, as well as other security, but it was not enough.

"All of a sudden we were hearing whistles," the worker said.

Another eyewitness, a Children's Hospital of Wisconsin worker who was with his wife, a daughter, a friend of his daughter's, a brother and a sister-in-law, said they arrived at the Midway at 9:15 p.m.

At about 9:40 p.m., he said he saw the first of two fights broke out.

"I couldn't see who was fighting but there was an incredible mob mentality," he said. The eyewitness estimated the mob at between 30 to 50 black youths.

"We felt threatened. Without a doubt," the eyewitness said.

He said a game-booth operator allowed his group to seek shelter in the booth while fights broke out.

"Fortunately, the police on horses arrived quite quickly," the eyewitness said.

The eyewitness said he was the recipient of several racially charged comments from the black youths. At one point, he said, he approached a security guard and told him he had better get more security to the scene. He said he told the security officer that "trouble was brewing."

"The scariest part is that we were trapped between the midway and the exits by the mob, we had no way out. It was very frightening," the hospital worker said. "It was glaringly obvious something was going to happen long before it did," the hospital worker said.

One woman, a Marquette University employee, had left the fair with a friend. She said they had just turned onto S. 84th St., across the street from the fair and were headed north toward I-94 when they saw young black youths running between cars on the street.

"Then groups of kids began surging, all running at cars," she said. "Some kids ran up on the hood of the car in front of us, bounced on it and jumped off. That guy looked like he got out of the car. When he came back his face was bloody."

She said she wasn't sure if the man was able to get medical attention. "I saw somebody in the car with cellphones, probably calling police."

"It was scary and it was confusing," she added. "We didn't know what was happening. We didn't see any law enforcement officer."

She said she and her friend were concerned that somebody would try to break into their car. "There were so many people coming at you. Yes, it was scary."

Harris said Friday that police officers were involved in breaking up numerous fights at the Midway. She could not immediately provide a number, but said a number of arrests were made. Most of the arrests were for disorderly conduct.

"Throughout the night we had fights, but that's not atypical," Harris said.

Rick Pries of Milwaukee had spent the entire day at the fair with a friend and her two grandchildren.

"We were in the Midway and it was very crowded. While the kids were waiting in line I noticed large groups of black males running through the very crowded Midway, yelling there was a fight," Pries said. "There were several of these large groups all converging to this location."

Pries said he decided to take the two children he was watching out of a line they were waiting in and leave the fair.

"There was very little security," he said. "And the few that were there would have been overwhelmed by the sheer number of troublemakers," Pries said.

West Allis police and Milwaukee police were not immediately available for comment.

The concession worker said he was not personally hassled, but he was concerned the youths would attempt to take his cash register. He closed his concession stand early for safety reasons.

"I was planning to take my kids to the fair tonight," he said Friday morning. "I definitely won't now."

The Wisconsin State Fair is located in different jurisdictions. The north side of the fairgrounds from the Hank Aaron Bike Trial north is in the city of Milwaukee. The rest of the fair is in West Allis. Adding to the confusion is that the Wisconsin State Fair Park police only has jurisdiction on the fair grounds, not outside of it.

Bring it on!

Are you suggesting there won't be "hate crime" charges?

Anybody else notice that the abc article said nothing about blacks beating white guys? The local paper mentioned race but once again our national media left that unconveinent fact out. If this was skin heads or somebody doing this it would have been a "live from the scene" deal on the 10 o clock national news

Anybody else notice that the abc article said nothing about blacks beating white guys? The local paper mentioned race but once again our national media left that unconveinent fact out. If this was skin heads or somebody doing this it would have been a "live from the scene" deal on the 10 o clock national news

I wonder if this sort of thing is more common in states where it's unlikely anyone will be carrying a handgun.

Definitely. I was trying to imagine that happening at a Georgia county fair. Could be wrong but I don't see it happening.

I wonder if this sort of thing is more common in states where it's unlikely anyone will be carrying a handgun.