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I'm am primarly a bow hunter so am throwing out this question
Have a moose tag in BC this Oct and the guide has a grizzly tag available. I said hell yeh I'll take it, also picking up at least one wolf tag too
Taking up my bow but also bringing my 300 win mag. I know the 300 is more than enough for moose as I have shot 2 with my bow
Is it justifiable to pick-up a 338 or 375 HH for the grizzly bear or is a 300 win mag sufficient? I know the grizzly and moose run smaller up in N BC than Alaska. Thought I would post this here as you guys seem to have the most real world experience.
Any loads, bullet selection 300 mag/ 338 for big bear?
Thanks
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Is it justifiable to pick-up a 338 or 375 HH for the grizzly bear or is a 300 win mag sufficient?
Yes and Yes! That justifies the acquisition if that's what you want, but you won't be undergunned with the 300WM. Good bullet in the right place.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Ribka,
as you re going in BC i suggest you to try on our Canada section.
there is more than one fellow there that i hunted moose and grizzly.
if you tell there where you re going pretty sure you ll get top notch advices.
of course here too.
ps : there is some nice�moose dandy in N BC and some BC grizzly can be compare side by side with AK peninsula brown bear.
for the caliber everything will work and take the one you can handle as you re a bowhunter you know a little about bullet or arrow placment
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My Brother has been using a 300 Weatherby for about 25 years on Moose and Grizzlies. Hasn't let him down yet. 200gr Noslers are his 1st choice, but he's killed just as many or more with 180's.
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My grizzly fell to a .30-06 like he was was hit by the hammer of Thor I used Federal factory 180gr TSX
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That sounds like a great hunt. If I was in your shoes, it would be an easy choice. I have a .300 Win Mag that light and accurate. I would be working on the right loads for that hunt, with the possiblilty of a bear in mind. Now, if I was going after the big bears, I'd have to take my .375, but it's a lot heavier than the .300 Win Mag. With the right loads the Win Mag is an effective and adaptable round.
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My Brother has been using a 300 Weatherby for about 25 years on Moose and Grizzlies. Hasn't let him down yet. 200gr Noslers are his 1st choice, but he's killed just as many or more with 180's. +1 on the .300Weatherby! 200gr AB's--84gr of H-1000 at 3,000fps gets their attention right away. G
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I'm am primarly a bow hunter so am throwing out this question
Have a moose tag in BC this Oct and the guide has a grizzly tag available. I said hell yeh I'll take it, also picking up at least one wolf tag too
Taking up my bow but also bringing my 300 win mag. I know the 300 is more than enough for moose as I have shot 2 with my bow
Is it justifiable to pick-up a 338 or 375 HH for the grizzly bear or is a 300 win mag sufficient? I know the grizzly and moose run smaller up in N BC than Alaska. Thought I would post this here as you guys seem to have the most real world experience.
Any loads, bullet selection 300 mag/ 338 for big bear?
Thanks
When in doubt use a partition. My 300 win mag loves the 200 gr. partition. I'm pretty sure a bear wouldn't like it though. I've even got some 220 gr. partitions stashed away for that special hunt
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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No worries with the .300 Win. Prepare in other ways, your rifle is more than enough.
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No worries with the .300 Win. Prepare in other ways, your rifle is more than enough. I know I've told you this before, but very cool pic.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Ribka you don't need no stinking gun! You have your bow.
Can't wait to see pictures. Good luck and be safe.
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Use a true premium bullet in the 180gr range and there will be absolutely no problem getting full penetration at any angle... Nosler Partitions do not qualify as true premiums...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Accubombs, then?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Nosler Partitions do not qualify as true premiums... Shhhhh. Don't tell that to my 10 footer.
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Nosler Partitions do not qualify as true premiums... Shhhhh. Don't tell that to my 10 footer. Thats funny Salmonella , got a Bud that has killed three kamchatka giants with his 300 Win. and NP's. Gunner
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Thanks for the advice. Of course any opportunity to purchase a new 338 or 375 could be justified but the wife is giving me a hard time already on money spent on the trip Would love to shoot one with a bow but this is probably my one and only chance for a grizzly so will probably be primarily carrying the rifle. Will be doing a good deal of hunting from horseback and guide advised that most shot opportunities run from 50-200 yds. Will start working up loads this weekend and start shooting
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NPT's may not be the latest, slickest bullet on the market, but the standard by which others are judged. I would think at least 180's in the .300 Win Mag with any of the NAB, IB, E-Tip, SSII, TSX, TTSX types. I would go with the one my gun liked best. With monometals, of course, it's the critical bullet length more than weight.
Never count the NPT's out. They're like the Energizer Bunny, keeping on keeping on, year after year, decade after decade, a true classic. And a bullet doesn't obtain that status over time without a reason. It's got to be pretty darn good...!
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No one said they are a bad bullet... Huge difference though between the performance of the NPT and a true premium bullet. Lots of stuff gets shot and dies from non-premium bullets.
But if one is paying for a premium bullet I would think they would have some incentive to make sure they actually get one. The second hole is simply not reliably produced with the NPT... and a huge percentage of NPT shooters wait for the chance to poke one behind the shoulder.
With a real premium the wait is not there and the bloodshot meat is hugely reduced. I have seen bears shot with the NPT and it works, but it would be a long way from my first choice. art
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