Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles So who has worked with the .300 Blackout (.300/.221) ??

I live 10 miles from them and Kevin is an acquaintance. I would like to talk myself into getting one, for a subsonic silenced weapon its the cats meow. Their uppers are well made, they are a quality company, the cartridge is interesting, it is just not that much more than a 223 however if I had the bread to buy everything I wanted I would own one as well.

Gotcha.

Here in Washington must shoot .243/6mm or larger for large game, so even though 5.56 with Barnes TSX/TTSX would work great they're not legal. I've had a couple 6.8spc uppers but got tired of having to buy special magazines and expensive brass.

Got a ton of 5.56 mags, 300blk brass is cheap and lots of bullets.

I went with a Noveske Rogue Hunter for my 300blk, loving it so far.

That is a nice rifle! How does it shoot?

Finding that a 123 grain mild steel bullet from a 7.62 x 39 will sail through maybe 5 inches of pine wood at 100 yards and keep going more or less confirms in my mind that momentum is most important for penetration. Then finding 7.62 x 39 ammunition is pretty easy as is finding 5.56 at most any store that sells ammunition. I have another acquaintance that does training around the globe for various institutions, he is a practical sort and comments that 5.56 does what it is supposed to do at reasonable ranges, its commonly available and discourages ventures into unique cartridges.

What would change some of this in my mind is if Remington would really support this cartridge. I mean they started up the 6.8 and then pretty much backed off of it. Now I find that people are buying supersonic 300 Whisper loaded by Hornady and paying $200 for 200 rounds (IIRC) to shoot in the 300ACC. Anyway if I could not hunt with a 223 it would be my first choice over the 6.8 due to the mag issue.

They don't really have to support it because someone else will. Easy to make and load. The failure with the Whisper was the incredibly expensive stuff that went with it. Lee just put out dies for the BLK. Remington does sell a box of ammo for it for less that $20. Had they done that with the SAUM, the 6.8, the 30 AR and a variety of other niche cartridges they would have been more viable. If we kept all cartridge choices to 223, 30-06 and 375 H&H, how fun would churning guns be?

I'm just trying to imagine that to follow hunting rules, how much 6.8 brass and mags would you need? I've had a 6.8 necked to 6mm for probably close to 5-6 years now, I got 2 mags with it, and 100 rounds of brass. All I use it for is hunting.... I've yet to buy new brass or other mags... in fact I rarely take more than the 10 round mag with me.....

well I shot the 300 today, and it seemed to do as well or better that the 16" .223 upper that came on the rifle. Not bad considering it has a truly awful trigger. It ran reliably, although it was a very hot day, and I only shot 20 rounds of Remington subsonic factory ammo.

And yes, it is quiet, even without a can

So you chose an inferior cartridge for deer hunting because you couldn't afford to buy brass that runs the same price as .308 Win?

You could afford a Noveske upper but couldn't afford $43 a hundred brass.... for hunting no less, where 200 rounds would last you until Armageddon.

all of a sudden we are back to "my cartridge choice is better than yours". All of them 223, 300ACC and 6.8 are in about the same realm regards performance.

No I chose to get a gun that I would prefer to shoot and one that I think is better suited for hunting.

The RFB is a great gun, but loading and unloading it is not something that should be done constantly because of how the rounds eject. Ejecting live rounds is not recommended, and hunting that is necessary quite a bit.

Selling the RFB and buying the Noveske Upper put an extra $600 in my pocket too.

I reserve the right to buy, sell or trade any gun that I own based on any criteria that I see fit.

If all I wanted a gun for was to load it up and shoot a few rounds through it every year for deer hunting, I would not spend the amount of money needed to build and support an AR15 platform gun.

For $.35/rd I can load 110gr Sierra Varminter bullets at 2,450ft/s and shoot varmints/predators. Also turns out to be a really good range round.

$.75 gets me a premium hunting round using a Barnes TTSX or TSX-SBR bullet at the same velocity for deer.

Exactly.

When funds permit(when my wife starts teaching) I'm going to buy another 6.8spc or probably a 6.5g.

I love all guns/calibers, my bank account is the only limiting factor in owning all of them....



Range report here: Noveske Rogue Hunter 300 Blackout - Range Report

No, the Blackout has significant handicaps that you accept for the ability to easily go subsonic. That's not to say the Blackout doesn't have a niche in hunting, it does, but you're limited just like you're limited with a .44 mag pistol round for hunting.

Saying they are in the same realm may be true, but only if one's definition of "realm" is they're both a cartridge and they can kill stuff at the right distance. Otherwise, we might as well consider the .22lr and .22-250 in the same "realm".

I absolutely agree with you on the last point. Only questioned your stated rationale, not necessarily your decision to buy a Blackout.

No problem. I buy what I want, you probably do the same.

Next time i'll just skip posting the reason for buying it.

I am in the "sorry I do not see a big difference camp" but YMMV depending on how you look at it. Again, I do not own a 300 Blackout and most likely will not. For the mix of the 3, the 223 is about the best for what I use it fore.

The 6.8 runs a 110 gr boolit at 2750 and the blackout runs the same weight bullet at 2450. That's the same? That's like saying the 06 and 300 win are the same.

The 6.8spc and 6.5G are both better rounds ballistically, but you get it at the cost of special brass and magazines.

My next upper will be either a 6.8spc or a 6.5G, but for now i'm loving the simplicity and compatibility of the 300blk with my 5.56 guns.

For discussion sake...

300blk
110gr @ 2450fps energy
muzzle 1466
100yds 1170
200yds 928
300yds 729
400yds 568

6.8spc
110gr @ 2750fps energy
muzzle 1847
100yds 1566
200yds 1325
300yds 1115
400yds 932

223
77gr @ 2750fps energy
muzzle 1293
100yds 1099
200yds 933
300yds 787
400yds 600

interesting...

"Same realm"..... Laughin..

Then add in that rainbow trajectory from the slower speed and garbage BC.

Magazines, OK, that's somewhat true, though 6.8 magazines are readily available and cheap.

Brass though? How is 6.8 brass "special" and .300 Blackout not special? You're either buying brass with the correct head stamp which is 10X less popular and available as 6.8spc brass or you're buying/making modified .223/.221 brass.

.300 Black out brass is the very definition of "special brass".