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I have not shot my TC Omega Stainless in several years. I was shooting 777 .50 caliber pellets (three of them) with 250 grain TC Shockwaves and getting 1.5 in. groups at 100 yds. It was fine for whitetail deer in the south where I hunt. I am going to Nebraska this winter to hunt whitetails and since it has been so long since I have shot it I was wondering if I should try some new loads. They made single shot rifles primitive weapons here in MS several years ago so I am behind times on the muzzle loaders.
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Will,
The best load I've come up with in my Omega has been the Barnes 250grn TMZ over 110g BH209 lit by CCI209M. That load produces submoa accuracy at 2115fps avg MV. Sighted 2" high at 100, it is 2" low at 200. The 250 SST/SW also shot well with the same charge at 2150fps avg, but didn't have near the same trajectory.
The TMZ in the yellow supplied sabot can be difficult to load in TC bores, but the Blue EZ sabot available from Barnes is very easy to load. I use the yellow due to the accuracy, but they are quite snug.
Good Luck,
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120gr BH209 Hornady SST 250gr with black sabot
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Thanks guys! I was wondering about trying the BH powder now I am going to.
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The best and most accurate load in my Omega is Two 50gr pellets of American Pioneer Powder, Hornady 250 gr SST and the Remington 209 Muzzleloader Primer. Three shots touching at 100 yards. I wet patch in between each shot.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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I use BH209 exclusively. My Sidekick likes 100 grain equivalent and my Omega likes 110 grain. Both loads under Hornady 300 grain XTPs in a Harvester Crushrib sabot. BTW, my Sidekick uses a Hubbard breechplug. Ben stopped production shortly after I got mine.
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Mine likes 150 gns. 777 loose, and a 290 gn. Barnes sabot set off w/ a Winchester 209 primer.
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250 TMZ over 115 grain BH209. I really like this load, it is moa in my omega and love the BH209 powder. I'm using a std federal 209 primer
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Welcome to the 'Fire southwinds...good load you have there too!
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I use a 245 spitfire or a 250 TMZ, both with the blue sabot, with 105 grains loose 777 3Fg. Gets me a hair over 2,000 fps and great accuracy.
FWIW I bought a jug of 209 just haven't tried it yet...
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You have your huckleberry but have not ate it yet
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My Omega doesn't like the blue Barnes sabots, at all, with the load I was using. However, when I shot the 250 gr Barnes TEZ using the red SST EZ sabots they shot great.
Go figure.
FWIW, I just picked up a jug of 209 to try too.
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You have your huckleberry but have not ate it yet Gotta figure out what to do with all this 777 first...
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The best and most accurate load in my Omega is Two 50gr pellets of American Pioneer Powder, Hornady 250 gr SST and the Remington 209 Muzzleloader Primer. Three shots touching at 100 yards. I wet patch in between each shot. Bob You would wet patch, come into the 21st century with BH-209. Doc
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I am new to ML and just purchased an Omega.
First of all, the Omega manual says not to use smokeless, but I see lots of folks are using BH209, so I guess it's safe.
Second, the Blackhorn webpage says 120 volumetric units = 84 grains and that give you 2100+ fps.
I am assuming when you ML folks say 120 grains, you are referring to volumetric units and not true weighed grains?
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First of all, the Omega manual says not to use smokeless, but I see lots of folks are using BH209, so I guess it's safe.
BH 209 is a BP substitute, not a smokeless powder. I was just shooting BH 209 yesterday with the wind in my face. Believe me, it still smokes and has a not unpleasant smell. As a matter of fact it took a few seconds for the smoke to clear before I could see the target through my scope to see the hit.
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Well, I got my Omega in and shot the heck out of it yesterday. Got some sticker shock when buying all the supplies I needed...guess I didn't realize how expensive m/l shooting is!
Anyway, I started with 105gr of BH209 with 245 Powerbelts and 245 T/C Shockwaves(yellow sabot) set off by Winchester 209 shotshell primers. Both grouped well at 70yds.
Backed off to 100yds and upped the charge to 110gr. After getting it dialed in, I was shooting 2" groups which is probably as good as I can shoot. Shot at each of our 6" swinging metal plates at 130yd and rang them both.
Very impressed with the consistency and cleanliness of the Blackhorn powder...shot over 20x and did not clean the gun until I got home. The last shot went down the barrel just as easy as the first shot.
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Here is the recipe for my Omega...
First, TC bores are REAL tight, the Barnes TMZ with yellow sabots are near impossible to load, as such, not much good if you can't load them in the field, on a 20f day..
So, here is the secret sauce..Harvester crush rib sabots..
I use the black CR sabots with 250 grain Shockwaves, over 110BH209, FED 209A primers. Mid 1900's, very consistant, and shoots right at 1". The bonus is you can load them any time.
You can try those sabots with the Barnes TMZ or whatever your fav .45 cal bullet is.
With the boat tail Barnes, try the yellow CR sabots that are designed for boat tail bullets.
My Omega and my brothers Pro Hunter both shoot the Harvester crush rib sabots and various .45 cal bullets very well.
And yes, we basically toss the factory sabots that come with our bullets of choice.
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Those tight fitting yellow sabots cost me the biggest buck I never shot a few years back. I loaded up 3 pellets and the TMZs one warm late fall day and flipped when my Encore shot a one moa cloverleaf. Best previously with anything was 1 1/2" at 100 yards. When winter rolled around I headed out for a shotgun hunt only to discover in very cold weather that the bullet took every bit of muscle I could muster to load. Long story shorter, I walked right into one hot doe and 7 horny bucks late in the afternoon of opening day. I had a 100 yard prone "chip shot" standing between me and a deer looking to be close to 190". My bullet hit the buck very low in the brisket and he barely bled (most likely never dying). I went to the bench the next day and YES the POI was 5" lower than it had been in mild weather.
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