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Gotta be, that little screw would twist off long before 95 ft lbs.
Small block chevy head bolts are like ... 65 ft lbs.
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Looks like I'm off to the neighbors walk in freezer with this Winchester... She ain't coming off. Tried the 5/8" dowel through the receiver and some other tricks, but no go.
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Leomort: Ruger puts red-locktite on that front screw at the factory. You need to hold a soldering iron on the screw for a bit. Once it gets hot, it will come undone.
Trust me, been there...
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mathman, I may have gotten the units wrong. But that damn screw is in there tight! To bed your stocks you had to get that screw unscrewed, so how did you do it? I don't want to strip the screwhead trying to untorue that little SOB!
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northerndave, yes that ruger screw seems to tigher than some screws on car parts, lol!
dogcather, ah thank you for the tip! Didn't know they put locktite on that little sucker!!
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Neither did I, the first go around. Had a giant screwdriver and couldn't get it to move. Heated it up, and it popped right out.
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Neither did I, the first go around. Had a giant screwdriver and couldn't get it to move. Heated it up, and it popped right out. must be a newer event as i have never had any loc-tight on any of the Rugers i own before. however i did just receive a pair of action screws from Ruger the other week for something and i noticed there was a blue bead/drop, very small on the side of the screw near the end that appeared to be blue lock tight. i plan on popping that off before i use the screws.
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They didn't even use blue on the screw, they used red! Blue is no biggie, red is a problem.
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Well I have an update to my quest for accuracy with this ruger. It's been too windy to shoot but I have worked up some handloads for the rifle. It's a 264WM Brass is once fired and fully sized winchester (I don't have kneck sizing die) Primers are remington 9 1/2M Powder is IMR7828 Bullets are barnse TSX 130 gr. Charges are 60 gr, 62.5 gr, 65 gr Good or bad, I will post the results as soon as I get a chance to shoot it.
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Neck sizing isn't always the best.
When you write "fully sized" what do you mean? That is, how did you set up the sizing die?
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Full stroke I guess. Go easy, I'm a rookie with this reloading, these are my first attempts. I actually set the resizing die too deep on my set up or test piece. I had wrinkles in the shoulder area So I spun the die up a bit and tried again. I measured COAL for my rifle by partially sizing a neck so the bullet was just snug then carefully closing the bolt on the cartridge. I did it several times and repeated an overall length of 3.26" Barnse suggests being off the lands 30-70 thou I'm off by .046" right now.
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Wrinkles or waves/dents? The latter can be caused by too much lube on the case. The idea is to size fully, but minimally. Start with the die backed out, and going in in small increments until the bolt just closes smoothly on a sized piece of brass. This way you get smooth chambering without excessively cold working the metal. Try a search on setting up sizing dies in the reloading section. Search on this topic and "mathman" if you're so inclined.
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Thanks I'll do that. The die is relieved for the belt on the case. I guess that doesn't mean I have to put the belt up in there huh?
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It's a simple adjustment that would almost rate a Doh! if I could be there to show you.
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The bottom of my FL die is spaced off the shell holder about .040" with the ram all the way up.
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You can't really tell anything from that.
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With the neck and shoulder died with a sharpie marker (best I had on hand) I see tooling contact full neck length but not quite any sign of shoulder contact.
The cartridge fits nicely in the rifle chamber, no resistance when closing the bolt.
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That sounds good. When you were stepping the die in, did you ever get to a setting where the bolt got harder to close?
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No, the only time I experienced any bolt resistance was from a primer I didn't have seated deep enough.
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It took me a while to reply because I stuck my first case.
So I was out in the garage drilling and tapping.
1/4 -20 worked just fine.
embarassing tho..
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