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Both will do fine. I'd opt for the 270's.

Definitively the 270. While I agree one of the virtues of the TSX is you can go with a lower weight, the 250 is way too light for me and in that weight I'd go with a .33 anyway. More speed and LOTS more penetration.

The 250 won't open any faster either will open in a 1" thick block of bllistics gelatin
Either will work just fine 20 grains ain't a deal breaker

OU: This is a matter of opinion,like anything else;and I expect these 250 gr TTSX will be excellent....but I would never... ever trade a Bitterroot for a Barnes X....nor do I know any Bitterroot users,with experience with the bullet.....who would.

There may be some out there, but I don't know who they are

Dang!!

I would say the 250gr but try some .270 heads and play around with loads. My .375 weatherby seems to like the 250gr best but thats just my rifle.

Thank you, to all of you for the nice comments about the Eland.
I have restocked the rifle and also fitted a recoil reducer inside the butt. It shoots like a dream and I wouldn't change a thing about the rifle or my loads.
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Jorge, I'm not altogether sure I buy the .338 argument. While you can argue that 250 grains in the .338 will out-penetrate the same in .375, that argument also supposes that one does own a .338.

I, for one, have a couple of 300 magnums and a .375, and I've not heard a sound argument for needing a .338. There's not an elk alive that won't fall to a .300, and I'd much prefer the .375 for bear or moose. There are NO flies on the .338, but it's always been one of those "compromise" calibers to me.

For this specific application, the 270 grain for me. If you're taking it for the express purpose of backing-up for bear, I'd hedge my bets with the 270. If you said that you were primarily elk hunting and may come across a bear, I'd take the 250, as it will shoot flatter.

Can't argue with that premise. The 33s have always been a "twenner" caliber. I own three 375s and were I to go for brown bear, I'd take my 340 Weatherby with 250 TSX @ 2800 plus. I guess I have way too many guns. I have the same battery as you do as well and I would have no qualms to go after same with a 300 of any flavor. As far as elk sized animals my choice for the 338/340 is the 210 TTSX. Now given a ONE rifle choice to hunt all the aforementioned, the 33s are in my view a better all arounder. jorge

I tried the 270gr TSX out of two .375 H&H rifles, and while they shot good, I wasn't pleased with the results on wet newsprint. Muzzle velocity was just over 2800 fps and the impact was at 100 yards.



The bullet on the left is a 7mm 160gr XLC, muzzle velocity ~2950fps.


I wrote to Barnes and they said the bullet is designed for tough game, but given that the shot was only 100 yards, and that wet newsprint isn't exactly soft, I was worried about the bullet opening up properly at longer ranges - or even at 100 yards.

Perhaps I had a bad batch, but I recall a fellow from the Yukon also complaining about this.

I like the flat-faced copper Xs which seemed typical of the older XFBs I recovered in certain calibers. The bullet in the middle seems to match the TSXs I've caught in game more recently.



One of two 235 grain 375s used to put a moose down (twice) ; 2600 fps/150+/- yards.


And a 120 7mm from caribou.

If you were using the rifle ONLY for backup protection for bears (black or brown), I'm sure either a 250grTTSX or 270grTSx would work fine. But you're not going to be shooting very far, and IMO you're probably better off with a 300gr TSX or Partition or something.

There's nothing terribly wrong with pushing a lighter bullet faster, and I know the TSXs/TTSXs are solid, but there's no need to do that for short-range bear protection, and if there is any difference in a difficult situation, the heavier bullets would work the best. Here's what a 300gr Partition (travelling out of my .375 Wby about 2,550 fps on impact according to my chrono and some simple math) did on a double lung shot (smashing a few ribs along the way) before it exitied on the far side of the bear. The bullet went through about 30-inches of bear and kept on going.

3200 fps from my 378 Lazermark?
I will take that!

Bears are easy to shoot through and thin through the shoulders. The 270 tsx does it all. It will exit an eland bull broadside most of the time which is far harder then any brown bear.

Eland are not at the same level of stress to follow up but they are huge and solidly built. I've seen the 270tsx exit them frequently.

X three. There is a limit as to how much we can ignore the SD issue and the 270gr will shoot flatter.

I doubt the recoil will match that of the big 338s (340 B for example) at 2900 fps with a
250 and also that the trajectory will, practically, be any steeper. The 375 just keeps getting better.

I have two boxes of these on the shelf Just waiting their turn.

Nice bear.

No doubt that the 270 TSX will work, but penetration with the TSX and TTSX is a given. I'll trade a little (or a lot) of unnecessary penetration for increased expansion (more consistent in TTSX as well) when choosing a TSX. The TSX and its derivatives get better & better as the bullets get lighter & lighter. I've recovered a few TSX and TTSX bullets, but only a small percentage compared to traditional cup & core and NPTs--they are hard to stop.

I tried the 270 gr TSX to see what the hype was.
No hype, if it is the real deal





One was from over 300 yards with great penatration and ended in the neck of gemsbok. The second one close range and ranged into the floating collar bone area of a lion. Either one was enough expansion. Both were driven well through vitals and wrecked the nervous system. I don't use my 338 much anymore. Not that it won't work, it's just I like shooting the 270 gr TSX. Making shots at 450 yards proved no obstacle as well on small antelope. I won't try lighter because I know I don't need too

Recovered this 270g TSX on the far shoulder of this eland. This was from a Ruger 375 and going around 2700 fps at about 100 yards. I'd call that picture perfect performance. I'm moving to AK this summer and that Ruger is going with me!